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same purpose as DB CAT 5E , just because they sell it doesn't mean its use is good practice
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You will not be able to follow the guidelines for termination, ie, leaving only 0.5" of jacket at the jack, when you terminate a 25-pair. There's no way to do it.
Arthur P. Bloom
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I've only seen it used when they wanted multiple (3+) cat 5E cables at the same location.
Sam
"Where are we going and why are we in this hand basket?"
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Well, here's my last statement on this dreadfully-long thread about who is right and who is wrong:
If it is physically possible to maintain separate wiring networks for voice and data, then by all means you should do it without discussion.
If the circumstances leave you with a situation where sharing the same cable sheath is your only option, then do it with the understanding that you can't guarantee that there might not be issues down the road.
Why all of the tension here? Every trade presents even the most seasoned professionals with situations where perfection cannot be maintained. We do what we can do in order to get the job done as best we can.
Please stop all of this bickering over an issue that we all agree is the least-desirable manner in which to get the task accomplished.
Geez.............
Ed Vaughn, MBSWWYPBX
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I have a question for all you guys. What is the purpose of 25 pair cat5e cable? Derrick ----------------------------------------- https://www.belden.com/pdfs/techinfo/DS_IBDN_25_Pair_Cat5E_Cable.pdf - "eh" tie line for voice :thumb: Nordx IBDN/CDT Certified for What's Commng Next!
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Jeff Moss
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This thread is still alive? 25 pair Cat5e? Great Question! No one is really going to use it for data are they? Since many think they have to install only 5e for phones, the cable manufacturers may as well sell it.
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You can never appease your ideologue opponents.
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We have a bunch of it (abandoned) here at work. It ran from the MDF to an IDF closet as a consolidation point. 110 blocks on the far side, station cables terminated on the front.
We need to go cable mining!
Jeff Moss
Moss Communications
Computer Repair-Networking-Cabling
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Its worth mining those 25 pair cables.
The price of scap copper is pretty high now, and don't burn it that causes severe acid rain. If you can freeze it to -20 the outer jacket shatters. Up here in the Great White North thats not a problem I would wait till winter and throw it in a small cement mixer with a couple bricks it would clean that copper in no time increasing the value quite a bit. :thumb:
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