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OK. I'll get right on that...

C'mon down to FL. I'll introduce you to "Moe" (if he's still alive), one of the electrical inspector's for the city of Ft. Lauderdale. After Moe get's finished with you, you'll wish you had wrestled an alligator instead.

You DON'T argue with building inspectors here. It get's you absolutely nowhere, except a delayed project.

I did prove to an inspector once that the white plenum tie-wraps I used were in fact plenum by showing him the bag they came in. Prior to me digging that bag out of the trash, my installation was heading for "failed".

Well, unfortunately, that shows how much respect Moe has for you and other professionals. In my opinion Moe is the problem and needs to be dealt with. No one person is bigger than the codes or laws. If Moe is so powerful, then obviously he's more than familiar with the NEC and should simply quote you the section and details of the code he's flunking you on. There was a time when we had "Moe's" here. They've since been fired.

You don't mess with the "Moe"! :nono:

And when dealing with the Cities of Sunrise or Plantation, it's best to wear a Nazi pin on your shirt. They'll warm up to you better.

Danny, are you saying that they give new meaning to the term "planned community?"

Yikes.

Jim
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Oh no...I didn't mean that in an Anti-Semetic way, I meant that the building inspectors in those two cities are like Nazi's when it comes to dealing with us low-life contractor's.

The way I have found to deal with problem inspectors is to gain their respect is first by knowing the Code as well or better than they do. Ask them questions and offer your educated opinion. Establish that you are not some dumb wire monkey like the smart ass CGs they have to deal with. If their request is something that isn't going to cost you a great deal, it's often easier just to comply but if it's going to be costly then by all means object to it if you know you are right.

By the way, if I saw white ty-raps I wouldn't think they were plenum rated either. You should have known to either stick the bag to the wall with a note to the inspector or use red ones. Or you could just not use ty-raps at all and use steel tie wire like I do. Lots cheaper too.

-Hal

There is no "code" that states how often low voltage should be supported. ANSI/TIA/EIA/BICSI standards are every 5' you can go less than that but the length should not exceed 5'. Around here written documentation is required before failing anything we do. They cant just make stuff up and yes we've argued and won many times.

Danny, you don't have to move all the beams. Move the first 1 2feet, the 2nd 1 4feet, put a new one in @ 4 feet, move the next one the other direction 2 feet,. You figure it out, but some won't have to be moved if you do it right! (:

Move the beams???? Looks like there plenty of places to hang supports so if you don't feel like arguing then hang your supports every 4' feet and call it a day