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future proofing

I sell this method of future proofing to my high-end residential customers. Email me privately for the number$ involved.

It can be a very profitable add-on in a house with 20- to 30-something locations.


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CAT6, Cat5e, Fiber to the Desktop...it's all a bunch of misconceptions (and a way to sell more wire). You are only as fast as your server runs its aps and since we are in a Windows world...


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The only place I see 10G used in 'small business' is in three areas, and most of them tend not to be Windows centric. Digital Video production,
pre-press/advertising/publishing, and NAS (usually it is a solution like freeNAS). The only windows centric client I know of running 10G is a medical office running it to their Digital X-Ray machine. That is in a busy 6 Dentist Office. 10G is only used between 3 devices, the image storage, the Disk to Disk to Tape backup and X-Ray. They are not my client, but they are my dentist.

Its all about looking at where your bottlenecks are and targeting seeing what you can do to widen them. Going 10G isn't the answer to every problem though.

What still amuses me is home and business users installing or better yet upgrading to Mimo-N wireless AP's so they can connect to their 5-10mbit net connections though routers that have huge latency. Not only that they are left on the default channel where the interference is greatest, and have the antennas orientated completely wrong.


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The only place we will have 10-gig in the next ten years is the backbone between our (my employer's) buildings which is fiber, of course. I see very little need for 10-gig-capable copper cabling.

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They have been installing Cat 6A at my school for some time now. The switches are still 10/100...lol


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future proofing

I sell this method of future proofing to my high-end residential customers.
I've used this and I REALLY like it...Yes, it adds considerable cost to the project, but it makes life so much easier...


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There are plenty of copper 10G NICs and Switches available for sale and have been for several years now. We install predominantly Cat6 but there’s still plenty of Cat5e going in too. Cat6a is just now starting to pickup and its being asked for a lot in specs. I’m not sure why you guys even argue about Cat5e and Cat6. The difference in cost is minute. So what’s the big deal?? Now comes Cat6a and yes it’s a lot higher to install and there’s new considerations but price will come down on it just like Cat5 was high when it came out. So a spec requests Cat6a, so what?? Bid it, hope you win the job, and go to work. Every time this is brought up its always the same. Who needs it! Its too expensive! No ones going to use it! Do you guys really argue with a customer who wants a Cat6 run because Cat5e is 5 dollars cheaper?? There really isn’t a cost argument between Cat5e and Cat6 anymore. :shrug:

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In my area most customers demanding CAT6 are schools and municipal customers. I can only assume it's because they have money to waste (our money that is).

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"they have money to waste (our money that is)."
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That's because most government entities set 'next year's budget' based on this year's and "everybody knows" you're gonna need more money. In order to avoid a cut in budget because they didn't spend it all, THEY SPEND IT ALL, no matter what! That's what 'zero-based budgeting' is supposed to fix.


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"they have money to waste (our money that is)."
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That's because most government entities set 'next year's budget' based on this year's and "everybody knows" you're gonna need more money. In order to avoid a cut in budget because they didn't spend it all, THEY SPEND IT ALL, no matter what! That's what 'zero-based budgeting' is supposed to fix.
Ditto Ditto Ditto.................did I say Ditto?


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