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There would be a pink slip in someone's pay envelope if it was one of my guys making messes like that.
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This is one of the reasons I try never to run jumpers from the bottom. It's hard to keep the service loop in the jumpers when they keep wanting to fall to the floor.
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Just for comparison, this is how I left the job.
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I suppose the vendor could have added a few more mushrooms so that the 2 pair cross-connect wires would have been vertical instead of angled. Better still, run the cross-connect wiring up on top, drop the wiring down and form (I call them drip loops). That might make things look a little bit neater.
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That is a mess.
I really don't like to see the station cables coming into the 66 blocks from the top side either. As a matter of fact I don't like to see station cables at all. Hide them bad boys somewhere. With panduit, conduit or put them in the wall. Or if there is no where to hide them build a pathway out of D-rings or ladder rack if going into a equip floor rack. But if you do the D-ring solution it needs to be neat and STRAIGHT cables in the pathway. No 45's or slants.
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I did the cables from the top because there was existing cable that I reused and it was coming from the top. This is a plywood backboard on top of concrete block. Can't hide the station cables in the wall
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I know hind sight is always 20/20 but I would have probably relocated the blocks higher on the back board so that you could build a proper pathway into them. In a situation like that exposed cables are not always a bad thing if they are neat and clean. Shucks maybe even pinstripe it. But that takes a lot of time.
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There is no such thing as a perfect install. Even the ones that are considered perfect have something somewhere that would be done different the second time around. So cheers to a good job! :toast:
Now for the mandatory constructive criticism. I personally don't like to mount 66 blocks that low. My reasoning is the thought of having to stoop over to do the cross connects. If the blocks are to low or to high this puts every tech in a physically difficult position and the lower they are the more susceptible they are to damage later. Granted you may have chosen the height for reasons such as leaving X space available for other incoming equipment.
Please take my opinion in a positive spirit. You did a fine job.
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Why are there 66 blocks there anyway, that should all be BIX. A much better cross connect.
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Oh no, here we go again. The border police intercept any shipments of BIX hardware and send it back :-)
I would have used 110 hardware myself if I had to reterminate all the cables. If I had reused any of the existing hardware, then 66 it would stay, and yes, I would have raised the blocks and brought my cables in from the bottom so my jumper field is at the top.
As Grider says, I have no "perfect" installs so don't be taking pics of things like my FIRST Buffalo Wild wings job in Maumee, OH (I'm up to 6 of them now), or last month's system swap where I pulled a Panasonic 61610 off the wall for a TA-824. The labor was already 25% overrun.
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