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#12518 08/22/06 04:28 PM
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Just give'em a cup and a string.... :rofl:

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I made some calls on Monday and everyone pionted me to the state fire marshall.

I called his office Tuesday and they said the only way to find any thing out was for me to leave a VM and he would call back.

Havn't heard anything back yet,........but when I do I will post it.

Thanks everyone for you concern and help on this issue.


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#12520 08/25/06 08:08 PM
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Still waiting for a return call.


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#12521 09/05/06 06:44 AM
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I got a call back today from the state fire marshall's office.

And they say beganing in 1996,.. there must be a phone or auto dialer in elevators in the state of Kentucky. They do not have to have a dedicated line. They can be a extension of a phone system, as long as the biulding is staffed 24/7.
If the biulding is not staffed 24/7 then it must dial out to a monitoring company or non-911 number. It can not be set to dial 911.


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#12522 09/05/06 07:33 AM
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Thanks for the update, Mike.

Like was pointed out, every jurisdiction has it's own rules. Just make sure your local doesn't have a more stringent requirement.

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hi all i am an elevator tech and we do put in phones in elevators it is code now but it was not code in the 80's for the one that did not have a phone it did have a bell didn't it ? some states say that all you need is a way to let some one know that you need help! i dont like this. i think that the new code is right on the money

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Hi, Major. Yes, we all agree the new requirements in some jurisdictions are better than the old.

This is thread is over a year old. To get more information or if you have a question, just start a new thread. As each jurisdiction has various requirements and those requirements change year to year, new threads keep the information fresh.

See you around the board.

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Dropping my dime...

I won't mention the municipality since I do a lot of work for them and they can be vindictive.

Their school district, has many elevators, and most are without phones. They simply can't have them! The vandallism is so high that within days there is just a frazzled end of the cable left. Some brain-drained administrator once actually suggested putting them in a locked box! All the elevators are 'inspected' but have the certificates elsewhere since they also disappear. Most of their cars do have working emergency bells, but in the middle of the night, the only one that hears it is the trapped janitor.

This same plane of thinking prevails to include occupied buildings with padlocked or mag locked exit doors without exit controls. No fire extinguishers can be found and teachers often install their own personal room locks.

Local inspectors usually show up at the office and do 'paper work' for half an hour while the building staff 'gets ready' for the 'inspection'

And we are debating the type of line that is allowed! I would be glad just to see their system work even, even if it used a C&S line!(cups and string)

We often refuse to work in some of these buldings while they are in session. It is like being traped in the middle of a prison riot.

Sadly, little hope in sight...

Len

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Even though there are valid points being added to an original post that began in 2006 it appears we are wandering away from technical information and headed in the direction of politics. I recommend a course correction back toward technical subject material and as KLD said any new information is best suited in it's own new post.

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I think you should walk into any new elevator and look at the inspectors name that is posted on the wall of the elevator and give him a call. Here in SC you must have a dedicated telephone line. The problem with having it "ringdown" to other extensions in the building is what if someone gets stuck in it at night if it is a building that usually only has staff during the day ? We used to put in the push button style and program it to ring 911,but a monitoring company would seem to be the best idea.


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