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Trying to help a fellow member on Garage Journal to ID some old WE/Bell System tools and I don't know what these pliers are for. The notch confuses me... ![[Linked Image from i35.photobucket.com]](https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/jeffmoss26/uticanotched.jpg)
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Those are frame pliers, used to crush the insulation on the frame wire to make it easier to strip.
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Thanks Bill, that is what I had guessed but was not sure with the wide notch!
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Klein still says them (or used to). As Bill said the notch is to strip 22/24 awg wire.
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Guys, have no fear. The pliers are now safe and sound in my toolbox!
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Did you Bell guys have that coated frame wire? We used it in the General System (probably from General wire, go figure) that had colored insulation and a plastic clear coat on top of that...or so it seemed. In the tribs we did our own frame work and actually, so were the installers supposed to do theirs. Me, I just uesd my measured strippers we were half soldered and half wire-wrap by the time I started.
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Klein still makes them (or used to).
Yes they do and actually those are the only needlenose pliers I carry in my tool pouch. No real telephone man would have regular needlenose, those were standard Bell issue to installers. I believe they also make a version with an insulating coating for going between 66 block clips and into dense terminals. And yes, that is an insulation crushing notch though I prefer to just grab it with the tips and pull it off.
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The notch worked great for cloth covered wire.
Cloth wire was used for wiring LEICH PBX.40/80/100.
Leich was part of AUTOMATIC ELECTRIC at the end days.There were even central offices using a LEICH
configuration of switches.All relays with bar rods.
Anybody remember or had any experience with such?
Didn't know what i was doing but i was just a CO Installer.
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I have a pair from Crescent which I think is Jonard now. They are coated like Hal says. They also have a notch for stripping wire.
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