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Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259840 04/22/06 03:49 PM
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TonyFalcon Member Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28	Quote Originally posted by Z-man: You can pick up used Ace's for about $75. Whether your T-1 card has a built in CSU depends on the manufactor. Nortel does. Some Avaya cards do. I can't speak for any of the others. Which ace can you buy for $75? I thought they were about $475? Thanks.

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Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259841 04/22/06 05:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,630 Denver Z-man Moderator-Avaya, Nortel
Z-man Moderator-Avaya, Nortel Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,630 Denver	You can get Adtran ACE CSU, non-display. Two on ebay going for $15 each right now. About a day left. Z-man Avaya SME Authorized Partner www.omniofficetech.com

Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259842 04/24/06 03:46 PM
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snfe Member Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 1 Tulsa	OK this may sound like a dumb question. Is there a standard log in for Smart Jacks like the Adtran H2TUR. I know you can use Procom but what settings do you have to change in order to login. One of our local land line companies is telling me it is nnot possible to change the LBO on these cards and my equipment is not going to come into service until it is increased. Thanks Rick Slone

Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259843 04/25/06 03:07 AM
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CnGRacin Member Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 860 O'Fallon, MO	The H2TU-R (HDSL 2-wire remote card) is Network terminating equipment. This card ends the regulated piece of the local circuit. Itâ€™s NOT a DSU/CSU and belongs to the Telco and should not be accessed by a non-regulated companyâ€™s technicianâ€¦. That unit would be THE DEMARC in most cases. The LEC person you spoke with must have been mis-informed (thatâ€™s a nice way for me to put it.) I suggest pushing back on them to change you LBO settings on the unit. The default setting is 0-133 ft. It can be set up to as far as 533-655 ft. Again Iâ€™ll state, â€œTHIS IS NOT A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT YOU SHOULD BE INTERFACING WITH!â€ â€¦ That being said, if I were in your position Iâ€™d change it myself too! :shhh: Hereâ€™s a link to Adtranâ€™s I&M pratice on the HDSL2 remote unit: https://www.adtran.com/adtranpx/Doc/0/F5OGTS8PGEJ494J150A9PH2T2A/61223226L2-5A.pdf ----------------------- Bryan LEC Provisioning Engineer Cars -n- Guitars Racin' (retired racer Oct.'07)

Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259844 04/25/06 03:50 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 160 Oklahoma City, OK Kyle Member
Kyle Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 160 Oklahoma City, OK	Adtran NIU's are typically 9600, 8N1. You could place a CSU between the smartjack and your equipment, and set the LBO on the CSU to cover the distance.

Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259845 08/02/06 12:32 PM
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IPKII Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731 Houston, TX. USA	Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but, I have tried to connect this CSU to Time Warners PRI interface & it does'nt work. If I plug it directly into the SBC smart jack, it works. It must be a pin-out issue, but I have'nt had time to play with it. www.phonelinetech.com "Can I Still Call Out?"

Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259846 08/03/06 12:43 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 160 Oklahoma City, OK Kyle Member
Kyle Member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 160 Oklahoma City, OK	How is Time Warner delivering their PRI? You might need to use a T1 crossover cable. T1 uses pins 1,2,4 & 5.

Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259847 08/03/06 03:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,384 Likes: 13 Fayetteville, NC EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire
EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,384 Likes: 13 Fayetteville, NC	I am in agreement with Kyle. Ours here required a crossover cable. While it's true that you can get by without a CSU, we have had instances with video over PRI that failed miserably without the CSU being there. Maybe voice traffic is more tolerant than video? Ed Vaughn, MBSWWYPBX

Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259848 08/10/06 01:30 PM
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IPKII Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 731 Houston, TX. USA	I tried a cross-over cable...no dice... We actually have this at our office. I still need to find the time to play with this, but, when I came across this at a customer site, I got a replacement and tried it at our office. Pins 1,2,4,5 straight from Time Warners channel bank to my NEC IPKI. When I put this CSU in between, no connection indication, when I plug it into the SBC smart-jack, I get connection indication...weird... www.phonelinetech.com "Can I Still Call Out?"

Re: Adtran CSU ACE Complete waste of money. It does Nothing! #259849 08/10/06 01:45 PM
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RATHER BE FISHING Admin Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,169 Likes: 18 SOUTH TEXAS	Every Time Warner Versa pack bank we have worked with required a flip of the pairs between the bank and customer premise equipment. No CSU in line.