web statisticsweb stats

Business Phone Systems

Support Service-Disabled Veterans!
Discount software from Direct Deals
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
#640612 04/09/21 05:28 AM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 502
Likes: 1
Member
Member
Offline
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 502
Likes: 1
OK

so whats the deal with the cat 6 wire some of its 24 gauge and some is 23 gauge are cat 6 patch panels and Jacks universal that they accept both

just something I was thinking about


JD

Atcom VoIP Phones
VoIP Demo

Best VoIP Phones Canada


Visit Atcom to get started with your new business VoIP phone system ASAP
Turn up is quick, painless, and can often be done same day.
Let us show you how to do VoIP right, resulting in crystal clear call quality and easy-to-use features that make everyone happy!
Proudly serving Canada from coast to coast.

teldata1 #640615 04/09/21 01:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 681
Member
*****
Member
*****
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 681
Not sure what the deal is. May just be the company making them. Some believe that with the 24AWG you get a better frequency therefore faster data transfers. As for the patch panels and jacks I have noticed much difference. I have punched down cat6a on a regular cat6 jack and still have had the same results speed wise when certified. As far as I know it's all the same. Just based on preference if you're doing a completely CAT6A install to do it all the same. Although 6A is a pain and I wouldn't recommend it being used at all, especially in the winter lol.

teldata1 #640616 04/09/21 02:00 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 17,726
Likes: 19
Member
****
Member
****
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 17,726
Likes: 19
23 gauge has slightly more surface area and is the standard for CAT6A. Some manufactures say their 24 gauge is just as good because of pure copper and it maybe, but the standard is still 23 gauge.


Retired phone dude
teldata1 #640619 04/09/21 10:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,179
Likes: 8
Spam Hunter
*****
Spam Hunter
*****
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,179
Likes: 8
I've purchased Systimax 6A patch cords. They contain 24 gauge conductors. Installed 6A cabling typically uses 23 gauge conductors.


I Love FEATURE 00
teldata1 #640645 04/13/21 05:16 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,719
Likes: 7
Member
Member
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,719
Likes: 7
Without Googling it, I had assumed that the larger wire was for POE.

teldata1 #640650 04/13/21 06:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,347
Likes: 4
Member
***
Member
***
Offline
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,347
Likes: 4
POE? No. Wouldn't make any material difference. I'm sure the reason the manufacturers use 23 or 24 Ga is because they can get the cable to meet specs given their other design parameters.

-Hal


CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.
teldata1 #640666 04/14/21 06:49 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,719
Likes: 7
Member
Member
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,719
Likes: 7
I thought that at one point I read about POE in regards to larger gauge wire. Did a bit of googling now.
https://www.cablinginstall.com/cable/copper/article/16478754/coppercabling-awg-explained
and this;
https://www.cablinginstall.com/cabl...poe-considerations-what-you-need-to-know

"The reduced heat generation of higher category cables is inferred mostly from the more stringent attenuation requirements of higher category cabling, causing cable manufacturers to increase conductor size. For example, a typical category 5e cable is constructed with 24 AWG conductors, while typical category 6A has 23 AWG conductors."

The articles are a bit older, but I haven't really kept up with cabling standards lately

Last edited by newtecky; 04/14/21 06:52 PM.
teldata1 #640670 04/14/21 10:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,347
Likes: 4
Member
***
Member
***
Offline
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,347
Likes: 4
Quote
"The reduced heat generation of higher category cables is inferred mostly from the more stringent attenuation requirements of higher category cabling,


What the hell are they talking about??

The difference in resistance between 24 and 23 Ga is so small that it makes virtually no difference in I2R losses carrying the normally encountered current used by POE devices. You are talking about .026 vs .020 ohms per foot for copper wire. That's 26 vs 20 ohms per THOUSAND feet.

-Hal


CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.

Moderated by  Silversam 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Newest Topics
night service, DSX40
by Bellhanger - 11/20/24 09:02 AM
Executone equipment available
by Bellhanger - 11/20/24 08:54 AM
3300 - Spectrum SIP->PRI with Audiocodes M500
by eos90066 - 11/18/24 05:14 PM
nec sv9100
by micro - 11/18/24 07:01 AM
Forum Statistics
Forums84
Topics94,437
Posts639,535
Members49,822
Most Online5,661
May 23rd, 2018
Newest Members
nurelion, FooF, brianorbrain, AndyW251, Dean Badelek
49,821 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
Toner 11
pvj 8
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 84 guests, and 57 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Contact Us | Sponsored by Atcom: One of the best VoIP Phone Canada Suppliers for your business telephone system!| Terms of Service

Sundance Communications is not affiliated with any of the above manufacturers. Sundance Phone System Forums - VOIP & Cloud Phone Help
©Copyright Sundance Communications 1998 - 2024
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0