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A friend of mine maintains 3 office buildings here in town. The oldest one is around 40 years old or so.
At some point they ran out of copper pairs entering the building, so they abandoned them and installed a DSC SLC cabinet in the basement fed by fiber. The OSP cable is still in the basement phone room, with the protectors hanging off the wall because they needed room for all the 25 pair cables exiting the SLC.


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Around here, Verizon doesn't repair copper any more. If they can find a working pair, they just move the circuit. If they can't find a pair, an ONT is hung on the wall and a fiber is run to it. None of the crafts people are happy here because none of the positions made vacant by retirement are being filled. Wireless around here is problematic due to the high iron content of the surrounding hills. Pittsburgh has a cell tower every mile of road because of it and the service is still spotty. FiOS is the "go to" media for Verizon.

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Verizon only mode now is fiber ans fios. Of course around here cable company's are the way to go

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Originally Posted by hitechcomm
Of course around here cable company's are the way to go
Around here the cable companies have great internet, but totally suck as telco providers.
SIP all the way! smile

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Our incumbent telco has sold the land of 1 of the major exchanges back to the government for the expansion of a children's hospital.

They are replacing the entire footprint of the exchange with fibre.

They install NTU's with 2 POTS ports and 1 ethernet port (i think the ethernet can double as PRI).
They install multiple of these if you want more then 2 lines.

Then the government is building a national network primarily fibre (gpon fibre to the premesis) with some fixed wireless and satellite for the remote/rural area's. With a similar NTU.

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We actually have our Power Board that offers Fiber to the Home and to the Business. I work for a Municipal and we are all (mostly)fiber trunked and,locations we are deploying VOIP and setting gateways at all locations for fail over . Guess what supports the fail over trunks. Yep You Guessed it POTS...We are pulling our many Meridian 1 switches in favor of city wide 4 digit dial for all departments... Funny thing is these POTS come in fiber, Hit an ONT and become copper for most of the locations. Only as stated in other post, "rural" area have AT&T actual copper 1fb's.
You can take the wire from the phone guy and make it glass, but us phone guys end up with copper in the end.


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Coper is still king here in New Zealand but with fiber being rolled out the old NEC NEAX 61 central office switches will have analog and ISDN retired about 2020. SIP trunking is the way forward but every man and his dog wants to be a level 3 reseller and put their own SBC in-front of a level 1 or 2 carrier and cause havoc and blame the PBX vendor for all their problems..


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If Verizon resold their fiber service as a "common carrier" perhaps it would make it profitable to install?

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I can't remember the last time I installed a POTS line that was copper from the street. All of them are sip conversions now.


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I was talking with one of the volunteers of The Telephone Museum last weekend. He does special circuit installs for local emergency response departments in Mass. He was told by the LEC (Verizon) that they will stop installing new copper T-1 circuits as of beginning of next year and will not repair any existing copper circuits (not like they do now anyway he said). I guess they are going to be delivered by fiber now.

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