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The provider is Verizon, but I think its a part of Verizon that was the old MCI. They have not installed any equipment at the customer's site, other than a smart jack. In fact, the facilities are so old here that the building is served by a lead covered underground cable.
The Panasonic Rev 4 does not support PRI, only plain vanilla T1. For PRI I would have to upgrade it to at least a Rev6, and PRI cards seem scarce and expensive.

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Originally Posted by andyphones
The provider is Verizon, but I think its a part of Verizon that was the old MCI.

Is the circuit coded as xxHCGS123456 or xxHCGL123456?

Here's why I'm asking:

If you have a HCGL, that's a regular Verizon Core T1, and you're out of luck.

Should the circuit be HCGS, that's Verizon Business (formerly MCI) and you *might* get them to provision it the way that you need it to be...

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Yes, the TD-1232 has optional modules that support CID on a per four-line basis. I agree that there must be a channel bank providing the delivery to the system from MCI (now Verizon Business).


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In Verizon New England Telephone territory "xx/HCGS/xxxxxx" as well as "xx/HCGL/xxxxxx" are both used by Verizon Core.


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Originally Posted by dexman
In Verizon New England Telephone territory "xx/HCGS/xxxxxx" as well as "xx/HCGL/xxxxxx" are both used by Verizon Core.


Just goes to show how different things can be between the two states...

In NY(city), we install and maintain all of these, but once you see HCGS (which is 99.9% of the time) you know that there's another provider - be it Verizon Business, AT&T, Covad or whoever else - involved.

My somewhat educated would be that no one is willing to pay for a "true Verizon" HCGL circuit anymore...haven't installed one of those in a very long time.


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I have a customer who has had a Verizon T1 and channel bank for many years. About a year ago Verizon on their own changed everything out with a new circuit and a new Adtran channel bank.

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I think that we have the same scenario with circuit IDs. If an order is placed by the end user, Verizon uses HCGL. If an alternate provider placed the order, HCGS is used.


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Originally Posted by hbiss
I have a customer who has had a Verizon T1 and channel bank for many years. About a year ago Verizon on their own changed everything out with a new circuit and a new Adtran channel bank.

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You're not referring to one of those "shark" things, are you?


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The circuit in question starts with 88HNNC. There is no Verizon equipment on the premises other than the smart jack.
The Panasonic owned by the customer is a Rev. 4 which can handle T1 but not PRI.

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Originally Posted by andyphones
The circuit in question starts with 88HNNC. There is no Verizon equipment on the premises other than the smart jack.

That's a Verizon Core circuit. A pretty rare bird in my neck of the woods. It's been years since I've touched one of those.

There *should* be some CPE-related service agreement available with that type of a circuit...in regards to what the LEC must provide and so forth and so on...

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