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If this was an inside cable and cross connect point, would this issue be so complex? Just because it's underground cable doesn't make it that terribly different from a 25 pair riser cable and a station cable issue. Aside from water penetration or outright cuts, there's simply no difference. A cut cable is a cut cable, a bad pair is a bad pair in 90% of the cases.
Are there any distribution pedestals along the suspected cable route or do all drop wires from the lots converge at the cross-connect location individually? If there are pedestals, look for your tone at the one closest to the lot you are working with. If there are others, try them too. There's no logic in mobile home parks anymore.
If there are no distribution pedestals, it could be that you are dealing with buried splices for distribution, where the 25 pair cable is tapped with multiple buried splices along the route, though 3,500 feet with only a 25 pair cable seems to be a bit of a stretch. There must be hundreds of lots along such a route.
If this is a buried "A.K.A. 'out of sight'" distribution system, very popular in the 1970's, only one pair of the drop is spliced to any available pair in the cable. If that's the case, there might be a much bigger issue since locating and breaking open a buried splice can get you in trouble if you don't know how to do it.
A side kick is a tool normally carried by a telco employee or a seasoned outside plant technician. I seriously doubt that there are many interconnects that have their employees equipped with them, not to mention training on how to use them. This tool isn't a DVM by any stretch of the imagination.
I am not sure that I understand that 5:21 and harsh words stuff. I must be missing something there.
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I had to look it up Ed. Like Waine said...
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I thought Jeremiah was a bullfrog :shrug:
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Ya know, you're right. :rofl:
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I thought that this was a telecommunications support forum. I didn't realize that we now offer advice through other means.
Sounds good by me. We do try to go the extra mile. Rock on, brothers.
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Two points then I am done.
1. This topic needs to be moved to cabling or outside wire construction.
2. This is a support forum and flaming someone is not allowed.
edited for spelling and altered point two.
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Moving, it does fit OSP better I believe.
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Yeah, but what's wrong with flamming? What is flamming? Now, flaming, on the other hand ............  John C. (Not Garand)
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Originally posted by rustynails:
If its only 25 pair, this should be relatively easy to determine even if the tone is bleeding on to other pairs. Get rid of the probe and use a butt set; check pair by pair, and you will definitely come across the right one. Amen
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Please don't bring up very old posts unless you have something to say that actually ADDS to the topic at hand...your's doesn't.
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