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hello people. got a customer with a modular home on a trailer park. no service to home. the office has the demark and i can trace the line to a cross connect point next door to the home and no further. it is about 3/4 of a mile and i need to use a progressive wire tracer. but they dont short out and they bleed. i cant determine which pair is theirs out of 25. if i use a regular toner it wont reach that far. anyone have an idea on how i can solve this problem other than having the resident jorder dialtone and try to fine it that way. thanks for any help with this. dave
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If I'm reading this right...
You say that you can trace it as far as the x-connect point. I assume you can tell the incoming pair, so what is it x-connected to? Buried wire, 2, 4, 6 Pr?
A regular toner should be able to send tone that far. If yours can't, maybe change the battery in the toner +/or probe.
Scientists say that the universe is made up of Protons, Neutron & Electrons. They forgot "Morons".
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but they dont short out and they bleed.
Sounds like there is a problem with that cable if you ask me. No reason a decent buzzer (toner) like Aines won't work that far.
What do you mean "they don't short out"? Do you mean that if you put a short on the pair at the cross connect you can't see it at the other end? Definite problem with the cable.
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I don't understand why you cant follow the cable pairs ?
dial tone leaves the demark on a pair then it arrives at the cross connect and leaves there to the premise on pair
where are you losing it ?
like hal says a decent tone would go that distance no problem or use a continuity on your meter or tone
(one trick to get more distance on your tone is to ground one lead )
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I'm a little confused as to what's going on as well. Any decent test tone set should work over that sort of distance with no trouble at all.
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If the out cable, as in the cable going to the house from the X-conn has a defective pair, your toner won't work. Place the toner on another pair & try again. If it's still a no-go, try another pair again, then start splitting pairs. Time consuming, I know, but sometimes it'll save replacing the cable at least this time.
Dave
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I'm assuming that the cable to the trailer from the cross connect is ok. The problem is in the 25 pair from there. Disconnect the subscriber cable from the pair it is connected to. Find another pair in the 25 pair that is not being used and is good. Connect the subscriber pair to that.
-Hal
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Save the grief and go get a sidekick. find your dead end or short and repair it with the correct splice kit. (sidekick being the tool not the person)
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(sidekick being the tool not the person) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Tie a short on all vacant pairs outer end.
Take your meter (vom) at x connect and find you a good pair, reading for a dead short.
Make sure you read the pair for gnds,and unbalance after you have id the pair you are going to move your dial tone to. (temporary solutions)
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