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Dave, that's the way the world is going, like it or not. The "standards" require 8C jacks.

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Interesting thread guys, thanks for all of the different POV's. We have been using CAT5e with RJ45C jacks for quite a while, say the last 5-6 years and have had only one jack that needed to be replaced as most of our clients' station sets tend to remain in place. We, too, have had to make upon occasion, an 8 pin plug to attach to a line cord to fit into an RJ45C jack at times just to prevent damage IF someone was going to be constantly plugging and unplugging their set, but that happens only rarely from our experience.

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Larry I wasn't aware of that. From a purely functional and reliability stand point that makes no sense, but what is, is. I haven't seen the standards in so long I'm sure there's lots in there I'm not aware of. Thanks for sharing we rely on those of you who hold the credentials for this information.


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OK, I have to ask: What is an RJ45C jack?


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So I ran into one of our phone techs today and asked him why they chose to use 8 pin jacks and cat 3 cable. In the past, they would treat them like a normal USOC jack and terminate 1 pair on each jack so the user could have 2 jacks at their desk. Due to a lot of failures and mislabeled cables installed by contractors, they now require the 8 pin jack to be wired with all 4 pairs. They then test the voice cable on all 4 pairs. I still don't necessarily agree with using an 8 pin jack for voice, but this kind of makes sense.


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OK, Jeff. You're a computer guy. What if some nitwit plugs a PC into a 8C phone jack that is connected to a POTS line. What kind of damage will be done to the PC with 90 volts ringing into it?


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The "standards" require 8C jacks.

And that's why people who know something disagree with those "standards" that aren't really standards at all. They are just something written up by an organization and followed because nothing else exists to illustrate another way.

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Do the people who write those standards know where to put their RJ45 plugs? :rolleyes:


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Originally posted by Ed:
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OK, I have to ask: What is an RJ45C jack?
Ed, our local computer store here sells them. They are on the shelf right next to the RJ9 connectors.

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