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Leviton (and most other manufacturers ) make 6p4c
and 6p6c I use 6p4c leviton as I recall the 6c are more expensive and I don't install any equipment that requires them


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Jeff, my comment was that I notice you like to save money and why use 6p6c when you can use 6p4c that are cheaper, as Skip said there isn't much out there that use 6p6c


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I have not found a keystone jack that is only 4 pin. The Leviton 41106-R*6 are 6 pin. When I use a biscuit jack, then I will just use a 4 pin.


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Is all this being decided by those same professionals who request RJ45 plugs or am I missing something?
Bill, I should have put quotes on "RJ45 plugs" because it was my attempt at a dig at the self-appointed pros.


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Sorry to jump in here late, I don't see the objection with running all Cat5/6 (maybe with the exception of small offices)

Overseas where I have worked in Cabling such as UK & Australia, your average cabling contractor will of never touched cat3 in the last 20 yrs, its only in the states that its referred to as "voice AND data"


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I don't think I've used cat3 for at least 3-4 years now. Whats up for discussion is the jacks used for voice.


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Originally posted by hbiss:
I absolutely agree with what you are saying about a 6P plug damaging the 8P jack. That's well known except in geek circles where they refuse to accept it. So let them plug an NIC into a ringing phone line and see how long it lasts.
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I did one job where the written spec called for 8p jacks for voice that 'would accept 6p plugs without damage' or some such. The same job required gray blank fillers in the keystone plates and 'front terminated' patch panels.

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Whats up for discussion is the jacks used for voice.
Russ, you are absolutely correct. Thanks so much for keeping it simple. I tend to make things unnessarily complicated.


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Originally posted by jeffmoss26:
I have not found a keystone jack that is only 4 pin. The Leviton 41106-R*6 are 6 pin. When I use a biscuit jack, then I will just use a 4 pin.
your correct Jeff , the leviton are 6p6c I was confusing them with the allentell 6p4c keystone jacks


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I'll have to ask about those next time I talk to my Graybar rep. I've got about a million Leviton jacks to use up though smile


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