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I figured people here would find this topic interesting and maybe want to chime in on this question posted at /.. "We have a T1 line coming into our satellite office and we rely fairly heavily on it to transfer large amounts of data over a VPN to the head office across the country. Recently, we decided to upgrade to a 20 Mbit line. Being the lone IT guy here, it fell on me to run cable from the ISP's box to our server room so I went out and bought a spool of Cat6. I mentioned the purchase and the plan to run the cable myself to my boss in head office and in an emailed response he stated that it's next to impossible to create quality cable (ie: cable that will pass a Time Domain Reflectometer test) by hand without expensive dies, special Ethernet jacks and special cable. He even went so far as to say that handmade cable couldn't compare to even the cheapest Belkin cables. I've never once ran into a problem with handmade patch cables. Do you create your own cable or do you bite the bullet and buy it from some place?" again : article here at /.
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I'd feel safer in purchasing a factory assembly due to his circumstances. The problem is that many of the cheap import assemblies can't be trusted. In this case, I'd buy a custom cable assembly from a reputable producer located in the US. Most supply houses have these resources, not to mention our friend and member Ken (KYAWA) runs a mil-spec cable assembly operation in Western Maryland. I'm sure that he'd appreciate the referral. Here\'s Ken\'s Web Site
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If you are talking about patch cables ALWAYS purchase them. First, they are stranded which makes them hold up to flexing at the plugs better. Then the plugs themselves are better with moulded boots. Then of course they are pre-tested.
That said, it sounds like this guy is running some cables not making patch cords. I don't know what his idiot boss is talking about, patch panel to patch panel should work fine for ethernet. Then again I'm confused as to whether he is extending the output of the T1 remote unit or smart jack.
There may be more to this than the OP understands. Problem is these IT types can't punch their way out of a wet paper bag.
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Yeah, I didn't dig deep enough into replies by the OP to find out if it is a smart-jack extension or a RU. Either way, it was amusing reading the question and the first 30 or so responses... because they were all over the spectrum! It does come down to the inexperienced IT manager, that has no real world experience or any cable knowledge - past what Google and Wikipedia tell them. I just wanted to point out the "same old - same old" 
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Well in the ideal situation, I would run a cable and terminate it with surface mount jacks at both ends, and use factory made patch cables for the connections.
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I think Jeff that was the subject of another thread. I have, in very small installations that won't be changed, pressed plugs onto the four or less drops and plugged them directly into the router. I have no doubt that they would pass certification so Mr IT manager is all wet with special dies etc. What he is really saying is that HE has never been able to press a plug on a cable properly.
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Well yeah, those are the IT guys 
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Commercially made good, quality patchcords is what I buy, with the exception of guestrooms (complimentary cords), because they are always getting damaged, lost, or stolen. I've made a few in the field, but try not to if I can help it. I haven't tried to make any cat6 cords yet... they look like so much fun! :rolleyes:
On a similar note, if the cable company doesn't supply them, I do make the coax patch cables for guest room TVs.
Thanks for the link, Ed. I'll keep it in mind.
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Without having gone through the thread @ alashdot, what's a "20 Mbit line"? I'm not familiar with any DS variant that provides "20 Mbits".
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Time Domain Reflectometer test
What the Heck is that? Is it new terminology for old stuff or did I miss a class somewhere? :shrug:
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