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I'm looking for about 3-feet of a multi-hundred pair cable to use as a demonstration for a training class to try and convince people that "Cabling is best left to professionals".
Anyone got about a 3-foot piece laying around they want to sell? Thanks.
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I've got some 400 pair cable but it's in little bits in the bottom of a box from being spliced in :-) Try the scrap yard where the addicts take their stolen copper!
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James, what pair count do you want? I have plenty.
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What are you training them to do, (other than not to work on telephone cable)?
I would think that training them to do it the right way would be lucrative, although it's a dying art that's doomed to obsolescence.
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James -
I use a 3' piece of 600 pair in my training lessons for the IBEW apprentices.
I use it to show them how to identify the binders and safely tape them up etc.
It's very effective.
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Well this will have about 1' split open so that I can show all the CG's that there is more to cabling then just going from Point A to Point B and to call professionals to do your cabling. It's a scare tactic basically A lot of issues I run into are home-brew cabling by whoever worked there that week. Planning to do a short presentation of some fundamental wiring do's and dont's for a training class. One of the dont's is don't get in over your head. The 3' piece is just a visual aid as most of these people have never seen anything above 5-pair cat5. Also plan to use a few picture's from out Best and Worst job threads to demonstrate why little things like cable routing on racks is important PM Sent Ed. Thanks for the input guys.
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Um...5 pair cat 5? Don't you mean 4 pair?
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yeah, it's a new standard jeff. Makes the DSL faster for the last 50' from the NIU to your modem!!! 5-pair Cat5 is what happens when you typo.
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I thought it was a new April Fool's Day joke Wait a second, you mean to tell me those Monster cable phone cords won't make DSL faster? :p
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A piece of 400 pair PE89 cable is on the way. That will surely scare anyone away from the big stuff.
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Originally posted by EV607797: A piece of 400 pair PE89 cable is on the way. That will surely scare anyone away from the big stuff. no , they will just figure with VOIP they can do the same thing on 4 pair
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Well, hopefully the pictures from the good/bad work thread's will shine the light on the idea that there's more then just plugging a patch cable in. It cant hurt to attempt to explain why proper wiring is important. Hopefully the pictures and everything else will make it more clear why it is.
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Originally posted by EV607797: A piece of 400 pair PE89 cable is on the way. That will surely scare anyone away from the big stuff. man, i hate those... between slicing fingers open on the shield and getting that gummy crap all over my hands & tools, i've got to be in a good mood to work on that stuff.
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Well the good news is that I dont have to be too gentle with it, since it's not going to really do anything The bad news is it's PE89. Should be effective either way.
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Maybe you can convince them that ALL cable is that way, and if what they are using isn't, it's inferior! The ickypic and shield cut danger should 'scare them straight' as the 'cons' say. (Don't ask) John C. (Not Garand)
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Well, once I get the presentation up and done i'll share it so you all can look at it and give me feedback on how good and/or bad it is
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Just score the sheath and shield, bend back and forth to break and pull it off, should be no problem on that short of length. I use a hook bill Stanley blade to slit the sheath and shield at the same time on longer lengths, I've yet to cut myself. When pealing off the sheath and shield wear gloves. Hot soapy water to clean the icky pick or alcohol, not the drinking kind.
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Originally posted by justbill: ....Hot soapy water to clean the icky pick or alcohol, not the drinking kind. Yeah, that "other" kind is used by splicers & cable repairmen up here to keep their innards warm during the winter months.
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Originally posted by justbill: Hot soapy water to clean the icky pick or alcohol, not the drinking kind. speaking for all the Irish as we're known to do, i would never dream of wasting ethyl alcohol on anything but my proud, green liver. =)
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The presentation went great. It was funny with that cable splayed open. I told them all when I brought it out to "Not touch this cable, it is flooded with gel and will stick to everything". Listened to them complain about sticky fingers for hours BTW, they all got a kick out of the technical terms, I.E. MBSWWYPBX errors Thanks all for the help.
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