atcomsystems.ca/forum Forums Wiring - Telecom Carriers - Trunks & Services T1's, CSU's and DSU's can I move smart jack ?

I don't know if Cali is much different from where you guys are, but I've moved many of these devices. Granted there was never 250 - 500' involved, but the guy who suggested getting your cabling in place, moving it one evening, and trying it out is on the money. If the new suite is actually assigned out of a different MPOE then you can let TWTC make the permanent re-assignment on their schedule for their records purposes. But you can get the customer in service on his time frame and be a hero.

Here's one for you ,I ran two Cat6 cables requested by customer to extend the demarc from the smart jack to the router ,The cables test fine,But traffic causes them to fail,I can move the router to the smart jack and use the extensions to the switch and everything works fine,But I cannot use as demarc extensions,only about a 100 ft run,I am using a 568B wiring configuration on my extensions ,Do you think it would make a difference using 568A ,I have others a lot farther working as extensions and at least one on Cat6 about 300ft. from smart jack,But it is AT&T and this one is V-frickinizon.

the telco was able to get there and install the new circuit before I had a chance to get back and try extending things .


turned out the clec contact was someone Ive worked with a lot in the past so I asked her about moving it

she said that since the occupancy was changing there would be 911 problems (911 would dispatch to the wrong suite ) and she advised against moving things in the future

the tech that came out form the clec was also someone I had worked with in the past . as to distance he said he ran across one recently where they had strung out a full 1000'box of cat 5 cable to extend the smart jack and it was working just fine

so I guess the answer is , not to move the smart jack but if you have to move , try extending as far as you need and see what happens

Gene

I wonder if its the cat6 . I would pull some cat 3 and see what happens

Only thing is you use a cat5 patch cord to come out of smart jack,and as I stated it is working in another location ,only ,three times the distance on the working one which is AT&T ,I wonder if because this one is an AT&T service ,installed by Verfrickinizon,that that is the real problem.

what ive seen their only using two pair coming out of the smart jack , as I recall cat3 is all thats required as to cable .

I have extra cat3 pairs going to the router location from the demarc ,I will try ,but the smart jacks here have cat5 from smart jack to router,Iwill try it,I asuummed it made a transition in the smart jack because of the Cat5 connection required,all the router connections use a cat5 also,Do you think it goes to the router on white blue,I assummed it was a data connection using w/g g/w o/w w/o.Thanks

the one I just moved had a cat 5 patch cord coming out off the smart jack , they cut a patch cord and punched two pair down to a 66 block to a cat 3 cable going to the equip room .(extending it )

there they did the reverse (used the other half of the patch cord , two pair punched down to the 66 block and then to the "connect reach"

( I didnt do it , just reporting how it was done }

T-1 pins 1,2 and 4,5 so depending on your wiring scheme, w/or and w/bl pr or w/gr and w/bl pr.

I checked and as justbill said it comes out of smart jack on 2pairs 1&2 4&5 , I spoke with a freind of mine ,who was with AT&t special circuits for 20+ years ,He recommended I move the smart jack ,use one pair from demarc on my cat6 and move the whole smartjack to eliminate the fingerpointing,These GC's allways wonder why I want the smart jack by the rack? Go figure. Thanks

Well like Ed has said many times...the OSP stuff is cat nothing, coming into a building, usually being distributed at cat 3 at best throughout, then to closets where it is cross connected with jumper wire. Go figure