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Re: Butt set tutorial #19954 10/11/08 01:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 1 Beachwood jeffmoss26 Member
jeffmoss26 Member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 1 Beachwood	My Premier buttset is a North Supply original! Must be an antique! Is it worth anything? Jeff Moss Moss Communications Computer Repair-Networking-Cabling MBSWWYPBX, JGAE

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Re: Butt set tutorial #19955 10/12/08 01:23 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,734 Likes: 4 Cookshire-Eaton MooreTel Moderator-Nortel, Computers, General
MooreTel Moderator-Nortel, Computers, General Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 8,734 Likes: 4 Cookshire-Eaton	Sorry but I just HAVE to take this off topic for a bit.... Quote Originally posted by skip555: [QUOTE]...real phone men wear them in a pouch everywhere , (never know when you might need them)... And you all laugh at me when I wear them to the Mod Meets! Scientists say that the universe is made up of Protons, Neutron & Electrons. They forgot "Morons". Dave. (CTUB) Canadian Techs Use Bix!

Re: Butt set tutorial #19956 10/12/08 04:54 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,722 KS KLD Member
KLD Member Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,722 KS	How else do you think I knew you were you in Vega? :shrug: Baseball cap, blue two pocket shirt, blue jeans, and a pouch with knife and snips......ehhhhhh? :thumb: See, even in Canucklandia, they are called snips. As far as butt set....well, try test set, lineman. :db: Ken ---------

Re: Butt set tutorial #19957 10/12/08 05:53 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,056 Fayetteville, NC Lightning horse RIP Moderator-Mitel, Panasonic
Lightning horse RIP Moderator-Mitel, Panasonic Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,056 Fayetteville, NC	Your Premier Buttset may become valuable before you die, but don't hold your breath, 'Cause then you'll die too soon! Funny thing, various other outfits started selling Premier items in the late '90's. I bought a Premier buttset from American Electric in Salina, KS for less that I could buy it from NORTH SUPPLY. And they said that was their normal price! And their Connectorized 25 pr was Premier. Long live N/S, may they RIP. John C. When I was young, I was Liberal. As I aged and wised up, I became Conservative. Now that I'm old, I have settled on Curmudgeon.

Re: Butt set tutorial #19958 10/12/08 06:46 AM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 1 Beachwood jeffmoss26 Member
jeffmoss26 Member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,427 Likes: 1 Beachwood	No Dave, we laugh at you cause of the BIX! Jeff Moss Moss Communications Computer Repair-Networking-Cabling MBSWWYPBX, JGAE

Re: Butt set tutorial #19959 10/12/08 07:24 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 908 West Covina California Jim Baldwin Member
Jim Baldwin Member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 908 West Covina California	used a varistor in series with a 48v lamp to test polarity in open wire. that and a "butt set".

Re: Butt set tutorial #19960 10/12/08 10:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,096 Texas WRichey Member
WRichey Member Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,096 Texas	With your tone generator you can connect up to a dry pair and talk with your tech on the far end of a cable run. Just not to far.. Simple is better in my opinion. I cant stand to have to many things happening at one time while testing lines.

Re: Butt set tutorial #19961 10/12/08 01:27 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,290 Shelter Island, New York Arthur P. Bloom Member
Arthur P. Bloom Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,290 Shelter Island, New York	"used a varistor in series with a 48v lamp to test polarity in open wire. that and a "butt set". I know a diode will work for that. Didn't know you could do that with a varistor. Arthur P. Bloom "30 years of faithful service...15 years on hold"

Re: Butt set tutorial #19962 10/12/08 02:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 908 West Covina California Jim Baldwin Member
Jim Baldwin Member Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 908 West Covina California	Yeah Arthur the old ceramic covered ones from the early 1A1 and fifty equipment, and WRichey we almost always worked alone so did'nt need to talk to anyone but guys on the test board.Its amazing the test you can do with a butt set.

Re: Butt set tutorial #19963 10/12/08 03:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,382 Likes: 13 Fayetteville, NC EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire
EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,382 Likes: 13 Fayetteville, NC	Sorry for the temporary side-track of a hijack, but: True Jim. Most of today's technicians never had to troubleshoot over long distances by themselves. When I say long, I speak of miles, not a couple of floors in a building or between them. That's considered "long distances" by today's newer technicians. A couple thousand feet with a butt set, a meter and a moistened fingertip can speak volumes to an educated ear. Now that I think about it, I still shake my head when I hear that two of my "technicians" will be required in a return visit run a single four-pair cable. All I can think of is those years of running many 25/50 pair station cables, terminating them, placing sets and leaving them working by the end of the day by ourselves. If today's excuse for a technician only knew what real work is. Until about ten years ago, it was not uncommon for one tech. to pull 10-20 four-pair cables by themselves. Now all I hear is whining about how much work that is. Wow, times surely have changed. They all still expect to have state-of-the-art test equipment and butt sets though. Like they would even know how to really use them! Ed Vaughn, MBSWWYPBX