atcomsystems.ca/forum Forums TDM Business Telephone Systems Avaya - Lucent Telephones & Systems End Of The Line For The Partner ACS?

Hi TTT!

Given the limited recording time of the PVM, I can now see why they would say 12 boxes.

Yup, I see the reference to the 9040.

Semi-hijack: There are lots of ugly phones out there and they seem to be getting increasingly uglier. I haven't looked at the literature until now, but I couldn't resist using the links that Dexman provided. I have to say that the One-X phone is just about the ugliest phone I have ever seen. Remove the handset, add two white stripes and it could easily become a football. What's up with the trend to make the shape of phones into circles? Is is a case of "let's keep up with Cisco"? Are phones circular in Europe?

I would say that it is more evolution than anything else.

Today's cars (sedans for instance) have that melted bean shape while most cars prior to the 90's had a squared off boxy look.

The rounded telephone look will take some getting used to. I will give Lucent & Avaya credit for using rounded buttons on the Partner Euro and Magix 4400 series telephones.

Can't speak for others, but my fingertips are rounded, not squared-off.

(Earth to Nortel!)

I love the one-x phones. They are the same ones used on the definity platform. 46XX or the new 96XX. Paperless labeling makes MAC's so much easier.

In my opinion I would go with Avaya.

Last night, I scanned part of Avaya's 10-K filing from last week. The first 21 or so pages speak volumes of Avaya's future plans (much of which has been discussed in this topic).

https://investors.avaya.com/sec/sec.asp

2 points that stuck out like a sore thumbs are:

1) Avaya out-sources production, warehousing and distribution of its products.

2) Avaya is moving away from traditional telephone systems and betting the farm (so to speak) on VOIP, so the unofficial end of production target date for the Partner ACS seems like a done deal.

I had 1 more thought about Avaya's future before this topic can probably be put to bed. :rofl:

I that's the case I don't see anything happening other than Partner going away. The Partner was part of a line of systems from Avaya- Partner, Magix, IPO, Definity. Partner by itself would be an orphan, no other manufacturer would want it by itself since they have comparable products and unless they can add it to their own line. Also, no new company is going to want to invest money into a legacy system because of IP. So, my opinion is if Avaya has it they should keep it as long as it makes money. They outsource everything anyway so if they are losing money on this they have real problems no one is mentioning. Isn't that why Lucent dumped them?

I think the larger picture for all to realize is that Avaya itself is not doing well and they are throwing buckets of water off a sinking ship.

-Hal

The way I understand it is that Avaya was formed out of Lucent's decision to concentrate on producing Central Office equipment (such as the WaveStar).

I guess Lucent had 2 choices, sell off or split apart. So, they split the company and out popped Avaya.

If I could predict the future, I would speculate that the big players in telecommunication will fully exit the TDM market and go full bore into VOIP (Avaya is in the process of doing this and it is a safe bet that other manufacturers, such as Nortel, are watching).

To fill in the void, manufacturers from other parts of the world could market small TDM systems and such equipment would fill what will become a niche market.

Very good points on avaya. Lucent has been stuck in the mud.