atcomsystems.ca/forum Forums TDM Business Telephone Systems Avaya - Lucent Telephones & Systems End Of The Line For The Partner ACS?

Staples and Office Depot already offer them.

Bingo!

So if the prediction about the demise of Partner comes to pass Avaya will be out of the small business market- unless you are fortunate enough to find one with deep pockets.

-Hal

Come on Ed,.........you know better than that.

5-7 years is just a good break-in period for a Partner system.

If a Partner system is properly installed, you can easily get 10-15 years out of them.
And might add that the Partner is one of the most feature robust systems for the small business market.

I agree, Mike. That's the key....If they are PROPERLY installed. They always, I mean always looked like something that came out of a blender that was hung on the wall in a 95 degree boiler room around here. If they aren't properly ventilated, they crash and burn. I guess that holds true with many other systems though.

We will need to discuss your last sentence in private.

Sounds like Walker Communications Inc, needs to open a office in the D.C. area.

We could call it Tel Walker.

Mike, if you end up in Washington, rest assured, we won't be worried about phones anymore.

:thumb:

Mike and Ed you are both right. I worked for Lucent for ten years (before they went down the drink) and installed everything from a Spirit to a 5E. The partner is the best little system on the market. I would put them up against any system out there.

About a year ago I got a call from a friend that needed some help moving the phone system to their new building. Yep it's a Partner and I installed it 19 years ago. If someone is only getting 5-7 years from a partner system it was installed wrong. Check the grounding on the system, that is the number one thing that takes out the ports "BAD GROUNDING"
Cheers

Well, maybe. How are you going to ground a system using a two-slot carrier? While I agree that they are decent systems, it wasn't until the ACS came along that the Partner became a real contender in the market with features. Even most of this system's current features have been available on other systems much longer.

The Bell System/ATT/Lucent mindset kept pressing on with their thoughts that the customer "will get what we have to offer" and it will work. They did it very well and it worked everywhere they went. Honestly, I miss that.

The Partner systems aren't quite the same anymore. Not to mention that if anyone buys a small system and actually expects more than 5-7 years out of it is fooling themselves. Technology evolves at a MUCH faster rate.

Just a side note: We never ground our systems; this is just another path into them for trouble. As a matter of fact, it's the grounded ones that give us the most trouble. Grounding a system that has a physical connection to the grounding pin of the KSU's power cord is actually not legal under the NEC. Even the term "grounding" is improper terminology. Hal might be willing to share some of his experiences on this issue.

Hey... Now you got some folks scratching their head.

I know where your going with this.
You are correct Mr. ED.

Take the ole VOM out and do some research for
yourself guys.

Be careful dont blow your ksu up, but Ed is right again again.

You dont want a ground loop on your system, you
want a clean power outlet. Read the specs.
Do some serious installing and think.
Ask yourself a question. Is this done right, or is it done the way I've always installed these units? :confused: