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I believe ESI and Vertical still have digital premise based systems.
NEC sold out to intermedia, just like Avaya and Mitel sold out to ringcentral. we will never push a product for a company that has no problem selling against us and stealing our customers.
Tadiran has a nice cloud or premise based system, its full IP and they don't sell to the public
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I think Tadiran still sells the IPX digital systems as well?
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Interesting.
ESI's website makes it look like their current products are 100% IP. But sure enough Tadiran's website says they still sell Coral. It's definitely not front and center, but it's there.
But what the heck is going on with Vertical? On their products page they list 8x8, RingCentral, and Mitel products? What happened? I do see IP Wave mentioned. I haven't worked on a Wave since 2017, but it certainly supported Vertical, Vodavi, and Comdial phones. So assuming they are still selling digital cards for it I guess that's an option too.
NEC using Intermedia is kind of a shame. I worked for a partner and we had a big love/hate relationship with Intermedia.
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Avaya has communicated their intention to keep the IP500 going along with the release of their R12 software (R12 info here). There is a reference to a 500v2b chassis and I think we can assume digital phones will continue to be supported for the foreseeable future - there are certainly no allusions to EOL for the digital stuff.
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Mitel MiVoice Office 250 was end of sale January 2022. Still under tech support for another couple years
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Is this all on premises systems or just what were known as KTS systems??
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Does anyone have the email?
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yes they sent out an email April 15th.
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The MiVoice Office 250 / Mitel 5000 is in its final months of sale, I believe.
I believe you can still order digital cards for IP Office, but I believe the digital phones themselves are discontinued. Or at least the 1400 series. Not sure about 9500. IPO server edition is the way forward though, with the 500 V2 serving only as a gateway. I’d imagine this is impractical for small businesses.
But, to Keyset’s point I don’t believe there is a purely TDM system left. Maybe XBlue if you count them. Interesting that's about it - probably no more new TDM systems. Also re: XBlue, a company I worked for previously that specialized in Iwatsu systems sold a small system with the Iwatsu name on it. Don't recall the model, but it was actually an XBlue system, I believe it could only be programmed from the attendant phone with various menus on the screen, don't think there was a serial interface. While there's probably still a fair amount of Iwatsu systems out there, I believe phone and other hardware ceased production in 2008 or 2009, after a tsunami is said to have damaged a main factory enough to shut it down. And re: NEC - I recall working on NEC Patrician phones and KSUs in the late 1970s. They, like the Iwatsu key systems of the era, didn't use the standard 25 pair color code with their phones. And re: Mitel - I heard they acquired Unify, which is what Siemens telecom became.
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