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This is now 1 year old. But still a good read with a side by side comarsion between Alcatel, Avaya, Cisco, Shoretel, and Siemens.

https://www.bcr.com/bcrmag/2005/01/p24.php

I heard that the new versions of Cisco Callmanager will now run on Linux??! If so, that should boost reliability since linux hardly ever crashes or locks up (in my experience at least).

This is true, Cisco is going to try and get away from the Windows solution. I have also heard they are going to getting away from from full intagration with exchange too. They do have the new verison of Unity coming out in between express and full unity that will not connect to exchange.

For any of you guys have ever with Cisco as a small company they are hell to work with. Our company is switching over to Shoretel because of it. I think our Cisco sales teamed summed it up for us when they told us that our customers are not our customers, they are "a" customer and if they were better served with a "bigger" Cisco solution provider, it was Cisco's right to contact them outside of us and suggest they move to a bigger provider who could save them more money.

I'm curious and ignorant, if they are getting away from the integration with Exchange then how is the unified messaging going to work?
Also you can already get Unity without Unified Messaging if that is what you mean, they offered it to us 2 years ago but we wanted the unified msging.

Unity Express is voice mail only and is used on Call Manager Express (CME). CME is designed for single site customers.

Just went to a customer site to look at paging. LOL I have to send you a picture of a Cisco VOIP system. One picture is worth a thousand words. On the walls there are Cisco phones and right next to it on a wall mount is an old NEC electra phone that says back up phone. The guy literally went in the dumpster and fished out his old system because the new system is so unreliable.

Unity and call manager express don't need servers to run, you can add them to your router and have everything run off your router.

If the cisco system was unreliable, it was because it was put on a network that was not proporly configured for such use.

If the cisco system was unreliable, it was because it was put on a network that was not proporly configured for such use.

What would that costs the man to get corrected?

Well if it is up and running on the network now, then its just a the bandwidth issue and just make voice priority.

Yeah, Cisco is a POS, I guess that is why we have soooo many problems with ours. LMAO.
If it don't work then someone (either your vendor, technician or salesman) had no clue in configuring and installing the system OR you didn't have enough bandwidth. If you configure and install it correctly, it works.
Internally we have Cat 5E and to most of our other locations are fiber with a few being point to point T-1's and one DSL line.