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I'm needing to construct a surface mount biscuit type jack housing with three ports using snap-in type modules. I want one RJ31X module and two RJ11C modules. Does anyone know of a jack manufacturer that makes these? I've asked my Gbar rep and he is looking too. The closest I have come to finding what I want is by Suttle but it looks like the only solution they have is to use a flush mount 3 port faceplate. I will do this if it's the only solution. Suttle sent me some samples of their STAR line but the 648 series jacks will not fit the surface mount housings... HELP...anyone know if any company makes what I'm looking for anymore? Thanks, DT98
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How about using a 4 port surface box with a blank in the extra port.
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I have never seen an RJ-31X keystone jack. The usual way to do what you want to do is to just line the biscuit jacks up either next to each other or above and below. Is there a problem with that?
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What is a 648 series jack?
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That is Suttle's line of snap-in jack modules. Not much different than any other manufacturer's. I have not seen even a flush-mounted jack that can be used for an RJ31X. I know that Suttle used to make an SE635B68-50 that provided one 6P4C jack and one 8P8C jack with shorting bars, but I seriously doubt that you'll find any supply houses that still stock them. SE635B68
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Thanks for the replies!
In order: Metelcom, I would use a 4 port w/a blank if I could find it. If you know of one please let me know. Hal, Yes three jacks next to each other would work. Since the LECs do not like installing RJ31Xs anymore and the major alarm company we use subs out the majority of installs...and they have trouble wiring RJ31Xs, I am going to make a totally modular three port unit that has one RJ11C "in from telco via our surge protector", one RJ11C "out from RJ31X/alarm system" and one RJ31X. All these will be labeled and hopefully hard to mess up. The wins for me is to make the install modular (all our equipment from the LEC D-mark RJ11C on is modular) and to use our surge protection. Right now the alarm system is acting like a surge protector for our phone system. I don't know if I will find all the parts but I'm trying. Jeff, 648 is some part numbers from Suttle so that number is probably vendor specific and not USOC RJxxx so I probably shouldn't have mentioned it. Ed, You are right...Suttle is the only manufacturer I have found that still produces an RJ31X "snap-in" type module. Their new STAR line of surface mount boxes will not accept the old snap-in module (it is 110 punch down and rather large). However, Suttle still makes flush mount faceplates that the 31X module will snap into so...it's not what I wanted but I can make it work. I'm still hoping to find a surface mount (biscuit) type housing from a company that makes an RJ31X snap-in module.
I know this is probably wierd...it seems I'm always looking for wierd stuff... :-)
Thanks to all and let me know if you find anything.
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I tried looking up 648 on Suttle's website and could not find anything with that part number...
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Jeff:
They've renamed these products to their "STAR" series, though not identical in fit or finish.
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So, basically you are going to make a little box- line in, line out and RJ-31x? Then you want the installers to use modular plugs on the wiring and plug everything into the box? I really don't think that will fly with any security company worth their salt. Wouldn't with me.
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I'm thinking along the same lines as Hal. If they, "They" being the people that can't figure out how to correctly wire a RJ31X jack, I don't think they will be capable of understanding a home made device. But then again, I always like to wire my own RJ31X jacks myself no matter what! ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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