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#472807 09/23/09 05:48 PM
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What's the price range compared to Avaya or Nortel ??/


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#472808 09/24/09 03:22 AM
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Depends on the Avaya or Nortel system?

Remember its still Asterisk so its a free software that developers "make their own" enhancements to.

Some of these systems will survive, some won't, that is the danger of reselling Asterisks based products in my opinion.

This being said the price point should be lower - but it think the margins are higher for the manufacturer and okay for the reseller.

I don't think the quality of any Asterisk based product is as good as the major players like ESI, Cisco, Avaya, Panasonic and so on.

#472809 09/24/09 08:26 AM
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I am not sure I disagree with respect to Asterik based products, there are always limitations. That said, the quality of the IPitomy product so far has been really good. Avaya (I am assuming you mean the Office) has had lots of problems up here. We have more than a few instances of customers ripping them out in favor of another IP solution. Avaya bought this system in England and did not have a lot of say so with respect to product development. ESI is not much of a player here and Panicsonic still is viewed as a supply house product. Most guys I know still havent forgotten Panisonics overnight bailout on the old DBS. For what it is, the Asteriks based IPitomy has a fairly good feature set, flexible to a point and lots less than say the Vertical Wave, which we got certified on, but stayed away from because of the lack of confidence in Vertical.


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#472810 09/25/09 06:48 AM
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IPitomy is okay - I am just not a big fan of Asterisk.

If anyone is looking for an IPitomy 1000 with 2 Aastra 55I's and one IPitomy 550 phone let me know, just PM me for price.

Avaya IPO - I agree, it had a tough start but the last 2 releases are solid.

#472811 09/28/09 08:28 AM
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IP Office has stablized with the recent release's.
Pricing with IP Office is good.
We are still looking for another system to do IP.

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Another problem is getting a demo form manufacturers for us to see and test the system so we can make a decision.

#472813 09/28/09 12:13 PM
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You can get a demo from Allworxs (they supplied me with one).

IPitomy refused to lend one, but they were happy to take my credit card.

Demo systems are tough to get as a loaner.

Better off asking questions here than buying a system until you are comfortable with the manufacturer and the product before investing $$$.

There is allot of junk out there when it comes to Asterisk based systems.

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When we took the Ipitomy on, we did so after attending an Ipitomy meeting in Ma. at a hotel. They had a system set up there and had invited a couple of their larger dealers to the meeting. Once we saw the product up close and talked to guys who had success with it, we felt more comfortable spending money on an inhouse to play with. I agree that there is lots of Asterik junk out there. IPitomy seemed to have a more credible presence. I would imagine with the current state of the economy, all manufacterers are struggling with putting hardware on the street. I will say that the IPitomy people are very accommodating. and helpful on the sales side.


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I did not mean a demo for my office, I mean the manufacturer giving me a live demo so I and my staff can see the product.
It seams to me that most of the new IP manufactures are not willing to show there product to vendors before signing up.
I am not asking for a free demo kit, I want to see a demo.

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Hmm, when we were looking for a new IP product about two years ago we were given in office demos by Cisco, Shoretel, Allworx, and a few others offered. Maybe things have changed.

Steve

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