atcomsystems.ca/forum Forums General General Telephone & Systems Information Amphenol connectors not welcome anymore?

Have we ever had any discussion on the forum as to why manufacturers are so hell bent on abandoning amphenols? I did a search on amphenol connectors but got lost in the forest. I know part of the reason is because of IP telephony but there are some weird wiring schemes occurring on the 8P8C connectors!

I think you probably hit it. IT has a huge influence over what the manufactures put out.

Amphernol connectors are really not designed for high speed data. While 25 pair CAT5 cable does exist, I am unaware of 25 pair CAT6 cable.

I don't think Dave is necessarily thinking about data. Plenty of digital phone systems still are being made where the interface would be more efficient if it was 50 pin Amphenols. But I think Bill is correct. IT weenies have no idea how to deal with anything but patch cords and the manufacturers are catering to them, not us old phone guys who are a dying breed.

-Hal

IT types understand only patch cords. They are totally clueless when it comes to high density connectors. If they can't jam solid wire into a 8P8C satin cord connector, they are lost. Unfortunately, most manufacturers are looking for the "plug and play" day when a craft person is irrelevant.

Rcaman

OH give me and others like me a break. I may not know as much about telephone systems and equipment like several you do, but I know a heck of a lot more than many others around here do and I'm learning more and more every day about everything I work on or with.

Bashing IT people is just an excuse because you don't know squat about IT and it's requirements and you don't like the fact the the straight phone industry is dying.

Technology is moving away from the old ways and the current new systems might not b the best, but they are still very young compared to the old established telephone ways that were developed by a monopoly and therefore didn't need to try and please everyone.

The Amphenol connectors are being phased out because they just don't work with the required bandwidth needed these days. They were great for what they were designed for back in their day, but that design is obsolete for this day and age

Well, "required bandwidth" isn't a consideration when you're talking about digital phone sets.

However, the design of rack mounted telephone control units and modular connections works well with structured wiring systems, when the station cabling is terminated on patch panels on the rack. Just be sure to consider cable management as part of the installation.

Plenty of phone guys know enough about IT to do a fine job of installing systems that can coexist with the data network side.

Point taken. I am sorry if I have offended you with my comment. I am only speaking from my personal experience. For every one of you, there are 10 that leave wiring closets, main frames and IDFs looking like a tornado hit.

I respect the IT professional that "does it right." Same goes for telephone crafts people. Unfortunately, there are a lot of "unprofessionals" that make everyone look badly.

Rcaman

The topic has to do with why manufactures are moving away from amphenol connectors as a way of terminating phone systems. The fact is the manufactures are catering to the wants of the IT community. While name calling is not called for in any discussion on this forum, this does hit a nerve with quite a few of us. It's a fact of life things change and in some opinions not always for the good. So let's continue on in a bit nicer tone.

Yeah, it's Friday the 13th and a full moon. I'm love'n IT guys today.

-Hal