Remote tone on phone line/verify route?

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Re: Remote tone on phone line/verify route? #477583 02/04/09 02:57 AM
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 17,725 Likes: 19 Western Nebraska justbill Member
justbill Member Joined: May 2002 Posts: 17,725 Likes: 19 Western Nebraska	Quote Originally posted by Touch Tone Tommy: A retired Bell guy came to cross-connect a new resident's phone line. His method of finding the line? Call it from his cell phone, lick his index finger and run the block while it is ringing! Sounds pretty harsh to me..... I've done something similar, but not brave enough to use my finger. I just ground a jumper wire and run the block until I trip the ring. Bad thing is if there's something besides DT in there, well you know the rest. Won't really hurt anything unless there's a dedicated alarm circuit. If LEC doesn't label I figure the way I find the pair becomes their problem. Retired phone dude

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Re: Remote tone on phone line/verify route? #477584 02/04/09 03:14 AM
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ComputerDow Member Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 4 D/FW	Thank you for all the replies! I thought of using my probe while dialing in (I even heard of running your fingers down the posts to get the shock) but I was thinking that, in a room with about 30-40 66 blocks, that'd be a laborous task. I may wind up getting a line from another office that's getting a call in. Not to mention, and correct me if I'm wrong, the ringing voltage lasts 2 seconds on, 4 off. Every post would then have to be monitored for 5 sec, just to make sure?? I'm far from an expert with telco issues. I had no idea getting the numbers for this was so "top secret". The last time I spoke with an SBC tech, he gladly gave me an ANAC number with the passcode. This was before I found out about the MCI number. I figured since he was so liberal with giving me that #, that it was no big deal for this one. I can definitely see where it could be misused, though. Binding post numbers. I'm pretty sure I know what you mean, but would the telco give the demarc (66 block) number (if they even have them)? If I just knew which demarc (out of say 30-40 different ones) the line was on, it would be pretty clear sailing from there.

Re: Remote tone on phone line/verify route? #477585 02/04/09 03:15 AM
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ComputerDow Member Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 4 D/FW	Quote Originally posted by justbill: Quote Originally posted by Touch Tone Tommy: [b] A retired Bell guy came to cross-connect a new resident's phone line. His method of finding the line? Call it from his cell phone, lick his index finger and run the block while it is ringing! Sounds pretty harsh to me..... I've done something similar, but not brave enough to use my finger. I just ground a jumper wire and run the block until I trip the ring. Bad thing is if there's something besides DT in there, well you know the rest. Won't really hurt anything unless there's a dedicated alarm circuit. If LEC doesn't label I figure the way I find the pair becomes their problem. [/b] Is this something easy, or is it ill advised for a novice to do?

Re: Remote tone on phone line/verify route? #477586 02/04/09 03:28 AM
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 17,725 Likes: 19 Western Nebraska justbill Member
justbill Member Joined: May 2002 Posts: 17,725 Likes: 19 Western Nebraska	If you understand telephone circuits there's nothing to it. If you have to ask I wouldn't advise it. Retired phone dude

Re: Remote tone on phone line/verify route? #477587 02/04/09 04:50 AM
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hbiss Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 12,347 Likes: 4 New York	You're looking for the DATU Correct, but I didn't want to even mention it. But since you did I can say that in most places it no longer exists and the number was closely guarded since it obviously can cause problems in the wrong hands. -Hal CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.