thank you mdaniel. just got in this morning and did exactly as you said and now the phones are up to date. i don't know whether you remember i asked a while back about the message light staying lit. you all told me how to fix that problem and i did with the light going out but it keeps coming back on...vicious cycle.
but anyway..thank you again for all of your help, i am amazed at the prompt reply i get every time i ask for help.
have a great day