Take a look at these pics
https://www.onecallsupport.com/gall...ons&sFolder=Complete+Claim+Solutions
This was posted in another forum...due to my eye for detail I noticed the following:
1) the wires are not twisted enough from what I saw on the patch panel terminations
2) there is too much jacket removed on the workstation jack end.
3) did not see any labeling on either ends of the cables
4) in this pic, the conduit needs to have a bushing and/or a fitting depending on code.
https://www.onecallsupport.com/gallery/Complete%20Claim%20Solutions/DSCN0456.JPG
Have at it..wonder what else we can find
PS. on the forum the OP said this was a Cat 6 install, I saw on the jacks, cable, and panels that it was Cat 5e.
Here is the post from the other forum
https://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16429885~mode=flat

All I can say is that a Sparkie landed a big deal by being the low bidder and wants to show off.

The pictures look a little bit better than my worst project where people were actually fired.

I am too much of a perfectionist. I have a hard time with white cable ties. They are usually cheapo imports. I insist that ours match the cable color, and we don't use white cable. In situtations where white cable is requested, sorry but telco gray for the cable ties is all I will allow.

Great find Jeff.

I can't understand how someone could possibly be proud enough of that job to post pictures like that. The terminations look like what my students would do on their first try. And even then, most of them do a better job on the first go. This is just sad. Someone didn't spend nearly enough time dressing out their cables.

Personally, I'm moving away from using tie wraps for anything beyond the pathways. At the rack/patch panel it's all velcro. But honestly, the tie wraps are the least of the crimes being committed here.

If this was my building I would ask for my money back. Obviously these guys either have no pride in their work or they just stink at it. Either way, its not good.

The problem is, that the people that are having data wiring done for them don't realize how important it really is to a network. If you don't have the proper infrastructure or it is done poorly, it can and will affect your network as a whole. Their mind thought is that its just some wires, who cares just throw it in, so we can get to the important stuff like the hardware. :bang:

we dont nedd no steenkiiin velcro we got masking tape

https://www.onecallsupport.com/gallery/Complete%20Claim%20Solutions/DSCN0438.JPG :rolleyes:

now that is nice..I hope that was just temporary....I don't get it, they have a bushing on the one pipe but not the other three..go figure

I looked closer because I thought I saw cable ties, but in the pictures of the ladder rack it is lacing string...
PS. That company claims to be a network/cabling specialist, too...WOW

https://www.onecallsupport.com/gallery/Complete%20Claim%20Solutions/DSCN0472.JPG

Is this their idea of a proper AC outlet?

Or this

https://www.onecallsupport.com/gallery/Complete%20Claim%20Solutions/DSCN0468.JPG

In this one, you can see that there's no box. They mounted it on a caddy, with all sorts of wires behind it, I can't even SEE any MC.

https://www.onecallsupport.com/gallery/Complete%20Claim%20Solutions/DSCN0463.JPG

On the left you see the guy's laptop. It's got his timesheet on the screen. On the right, we see the root of the problem - Cisco phones.

Oh yeah, I am waiting for the OP on the other forum to respond...I took pictures of my patch panel terminations at home to show him.

But at least there's a pull string.....

Rob, that first receptacle just has masking tape on it so the painters won't slop it up. It's installed in a box. With the second you are seeing inside a large box that the receptacle is installed in. Nothing wrong with either.

As far as the network wiring, the Cisco IP phone should say it all. What would you expect?

Ed- telco gray for the cable ties is all I will allow...

I thought I was the only one who insists on gray ties!

-Hal

Perhaps, but you've got to admit the use of firestop caulk is a nice touch. We'll just go ahead and overlook the fact the the pipe itself is wide open!


Sadly, these install pics are far better than the kind of stuff I see every day. I'm very close to concluding that no one cares about doing the job properly anymore. Even the customers don't seem to care. I suppose that's why the $25 per drop guys continue to thrive.

:bang:


Edit: I feel better after having a good laugh. From the front page of their website:

I have seen those gray ties in use, but have not seen them for sale anywhere...besides Sandman...where do you guys get them?

Honestly now people, the Cisco phones didn't pull the cable, I don't think they deserve the blame here. In fact I would consider the Cisco phones to be innocent victims here...they have to run over that rat's nest.

Jeff:

We used to get them from Sprint North Supply and stocked up on a bunch of them before they shut down.

There is a pretty good deal going on them on e-bay right now though. Here is the item number: 7579848795

Talk to your uncle. Famous has them.

-Hal

Good call...thanks to both of you.
Hal...you mean I have to talk to my family! Just kidding

You know we had a post some time ago about installs and pics but not many people posted. Kinda makes you go hhhmmmmmm. :confused:

Everyone talks a big game but I only know a few that can cough up the proof. Most of them are on the board :thumb:

They posted the pics because they think it is really a quality install. My guess is these guys have seen cable but never actually installed it until now. They're using lacing string for the wrong application and didn't tie any of the knots correctly anyway. It’s a good thing they started with cat-6 because if they manage to get any continuity through any of the wire they just might get base-10 speeds.

its not even cat 6 cable!

I want to know wtf actually untwists the wires like that on the patch panels. LOL. Besides, with CAT6 and above tie wraps are a big no no. They should be using velcro straps.

I want to know wtf actually untwists the wires like that on the patch panels. LOL. Besides, with CAT6 and above tie wraps are a big no no. They should be using velcro straps.

i saw some bad stuff the day my teacher showed the class how to punchdown jacks in my computer class...never thought it could be screwed up so bad.
So i showed them!