I wanted to get an opinion from the board.

I sold some Avaya telephones on e-bay, and the buyer won't pay. Not a big deal. I am not out that much money, and I can resell them. My problem is, the buyer has played the game of the check is in the mail, I'll bring a check to your office and not show up, and now ignoring me. A simple I don't want these, or I made a mistake when I bid on them, would have worked. We could have worked things out.

I am contemplating reporting this to e-bay and to this and other tech forums; however the buyer is a member of this board. I am new to this board, and I have found it educational and entertaining. I don't want to cause a problem over a couple of hundred bucks and bruised ego.

What would you do?

Well if he is a member here I think the cat should be let out (ebay too) I can say this much for the board I like the people and will send as much work there way as possible but if I cant trust a possible job or sale and I send it to someone here how does that make me look? also I think (correct me if im wrong) we are here to help others as much as we can and if this other party is a !@$#@#$! then he deserves to be shown the door! people like that ruin guys like us trying to get by and help others in the process

I am not sure how ebay works, but if you still have the product, what money are you out? But Hall of Shame forum is where you would want to post. Unless you are talking about me, then I wouldn't post anything anywhere ever! haha

"I dont want to cause a problem'

You were cheated out of a delivered product. Post the persons name, and guilt will take its toll....

Leave negative feedback on E-Bay - that is what their whole feedback thing is all about.

File a NON PAYING BIDDER ALERT with ebay, they will refund your $$ and let you repost for free. NEG feedbacks do not get someone off ebay, they simply let other users know of thier experience....to many negs....steer clear.
3 Non paying bidder alerts gets you canned on ebay. IF you shipped the product then you have learned NEVER ship until you get the $$. Checks MUST clear before item ships.
State that in your auctions.

If it was me I would post the individual's name in the Hall of Shame and don't be concerned about causing trouble. This individual has caused you trouble and grief and apparently doesn't have the morals necessary to be a good person. I personaly want to know who this is so I can avoid doing any business with him !!

since you started this thread, post the users name and the link to Ebay...and let's have a discussion!

1) That is why E-Bay has feedback.
2) If you lost nothing, is it really worthy of the Hall of Shame?

Yea, I agree, keep it in ebay. Neg feedback and Buyer will not pay report.

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let the cat out the bag and get the party started stop being a wuss. just kidding but like said others would like to know who this shiester is so we avoid doing business with him cause we do get and offer a lot of work here. bad business is bad for business.

Folks remember now, so far you have only heard one side of the story. There might be a reason it happened the way it did.

Good point!

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Maybe there are two sides to the story but if this guy wont pay hes a thief . If nobody speaks up against this they just keep doing it over and over again at the honest guys expense.

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Two side to every story....True. So, Mr./Mrs. nonpayer if you are a member of this forum and know who you are, let us hear your side of the story.

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All,

Thanks for your input. They learned a valuable lesson that there is less then 6 degrees of seperation in this business. I would say 2 maybe 3. They have paid, and lesson learned.

Chris

What did they learn and how did they learn this?
Do you mean threaten to exposure them on this board?

MTC Telcom,

POST THE PERSONS NAME!

Here is why!
I am a very junior member on this board, and I KNOW that all of the advice I've offered here could have been offered by dozens with far more knowledge.

The 4 major reasons I come to this board are - in order, learn, offer any advice I can, get work, and share the experiences frustrations and humor that comes from working for yourself in this industry.

I feel that this is in line with the reasons why this board was created in the first place and if your description of events is accurate this person is betraying this.

I've been lucky enough to receive work from people here, who has treated me with respect and paid me more than fairly. I've also been able to offer some people a little work.

When we do this for each other here we do it on the basis of trust.
I am a one man business and the MOST important thing I offer to my clients is my word. My clients know that because I am a small business every deal is important, but also I offer more personalized service than a larger competitor can afford or is willing to do for the same margin.

If I give a job to someone here and they screw me, it costs me not only that job but a whole lot more in the future, as at least 60% of my business comes from
refferals from previous customers. Whether that's direct from that customer or his/her OK for me to use their name as a refference of "job well done".

If a person on this board is willing to jerk you around for a few $100 there is a great risk that they would do far worse for a few $1000. We should know who it is.

Since you've gone this far, if you don't out them;
1) we may wonder whether this was just YOUR tentrum.
2) they won't defend themselves and the rest of us will wonder if the next job we want to post here is going to this person and should we post it here, costing possibly YOU future income.

Also, it's still very possible that there was just a simple miss-understanding and
you could clear the air. In the process we'll all learn something about handling a particular situation better.

If MTC has resolved his situation to his satisfaction, I don't feel as though he needs to name names. He mentioned there was resolution.
As was mentioned, we only know one part of the story.

What works...works
I'm glad you got it resolved.

Since the issue is apparently resolved no need to throw dirty oil on the individuals face. But my concern is like everyone else, why did that individual have to be almost shamed into correcting his morals and that we should not be apprehensive about dealing with members within our own trade and this group. My idea is for the administrators to have knowledge of both sides and decide the individual's status of the board. To me the administrators are the mediators.

All,

I agree that there is 2 sides of the story. For all I know there could have been something that prohibit them from completing the transaction. I think clearer communication on their part would have avoided any problem.

I have communicated with an admin, and I trust they will monitor.

My family has been in the telephone industry since the late 1920s. I know that this is a relative close comunity, and your bound cross paths directly or indirectly with people in this industry.

Example, anyone go to a AT&T/Lucent school in Dublin Ohio, or a Nortel school in Richardson TX. How many CWA or IBEW do we have on this board?

Uhaaa....No, I don't think so!!! Not going to happen
The board seems to be working just fine in that aspect.
Are you any relation to the Alexander Bell clan??

I'm an IBEW member, and have been to Richardson a few times...