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Posted By: CodeSection Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 02/09/05 05:50 PM
Hi. I am getting various system recommendations from 3 reputable companies. I have a need for a system that can handle as many as 10 lines and 10 stations. I want the system to be able to handle at least 2 businesses that have different “ad on hold” recordings and music. I need voicemail and need recording capabilities along with auto-attendant. Perhaps using Xtension Recorder might be better than recording to voicemail. One company suggests Sprint K3, another Toshiba Strata CTX100 and yet another Vodavi STS. When I listen to the Sprint K-3 auto attendant from their various clients, the voices seem a little scratchy or echoing; the CTX100 seems very clear; and Vodavi muffled. I realize that various factors influence the clarity of the voicemail, but I have listened to several companies to try to come to some understanding what they sound. The cheapest system is Sprint K3 followed by the Vodavi STS (only and few hundred more) with the CTX100 being the most expensive by $2000 (as compared to Sprint K3.) Is there any information out there that can give me honest comparisons between these systems in terms of quality, functionality and repair/problems history? Sorry for the long post….
Posted By: JOHNYREB Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 02/09/05 06:40 PM
I can't speak for the Sprint or CTX but the STS only has one MOH channel, so if you need two seperate sources, the STS may be a non starter. If you are planning on doing much recording and setting up two different Auto Attendants, I would stay away from the inskin VM for the STS and look at the digital dispatch. They do have a new hard drive version of the inskin, it may have more flexibility than the original inskin version, someone else may chime in on those. As far as reliability, we've put in apx 15 to 20 STS's and apx 100 sets, the oldest almost two years ago with one out of box failure of the KSU and no phone set problems to date.
Posted By: Voyager Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 02/09/05 06:57 PM
Its going to boil down to the quality of the vendor!

I've had very good experiences with the Toshiba CTX-100. It will support up to 15 MOH sources, and I have programmed multiple Auto Attendants on the In-Skin IVP-8 and iES32 Voice Mail systems (Both of which will allow recording of conversations using SMDI integration). I'm surprised that the CTX is so much more costly. I guess its whos making up the numbers!

Check out https://www.toshiba.com/taistsd/ctx100/MenuPage.html and https://www.toshiba.com/taistsd/stratagy/pages/features/ivp8features01.html

[This message has been edited by Voyager (edited February 09, 2005).]
Posted By: Coral Tech Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 02/09/05 08:27 PM
The K3 has an 8 port flash voicemail out of the box. Voy don't feel bad the K3 realy does price that well. I don't know the other systems that well so I would definately consider spending the least is not always the best. Make sure to compare them and call references. This is a capital investment for your company 2k is chickenfeed when you figure on the lifespan of a phone system. Just my 2 cents.
Actually, the STS can handle two MOH channels. I've never done this, but the manual says:

"This feature also allows the system to assign CO line circuits as additional music inputs. This increases the capacity of music channels beyond the one available on this system. A total of seven channels are available for use on the system."

We've also had success with the STS. The hard drive based in-skin would be your best bet for two companies.
Posted By: Ironhedz Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 02/10/05 12:58 PM
I personally like the K3. I think it is a good little system which includes the tenant ability. Be sure to use the Simplicity (harddrive) voice mail and not the flash voice mail. When you use the tenant feature you can allow / disallow intercom calls to a different tenant. Something you cannot do with an STS. As for the the other one, i have no experience with it.
Posted By: walterv Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 02/10/05 01:52 PM
K3 .... is a great system... as previously stated you want the harddrive voice mail....

And yes it has 2 moh inputs.... but that should not matter .... you can always add a device to any phone system that can give you more than one MOH input..

Email me and I will give you the heads up with the K3....

[email protected]

Walter
Thank you for all the replies! The posts gave me a lot to think about. After much thought, I have decided on the Sprint K3. Thanks again!
Posted By: freeness Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 02/22/05 09:50 PM
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Thank you for all the replies! The posts gave me a lot to think about. After much thought, I have decided on the Sprint K3. Thanks again!</font>

Be careful. Sprint does have dealers, they just sell through North Supply. Companies that buy from a supply house are usually too small to become a direct dealer.
Sprint may sound like a big name, but they are not even a top 10 brand. Stick with Toshiba, NEC, Avaya, or Nortel.

Andy
www.teleco4.com
Posted By: wb Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 03/09/05 06:50 AM
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Be careful. Sprint does have dealers, they just sell through North Supply. Companies that buy from a supply house are usually too small to become a direct dealer.
Sprint may sound like a big name, but they are not even a top 10 brand. Stick with Toshiba, NEC, Avaya, or Nortel.

Andy
www.teleco4.com
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North Supply is the distribution center and is part of the Sprint family of companys. In order to sell the Sprint K3 you have to be certified and a authorized Sprint Products dealer. So you can be assured that the people putting in your new system are trained on the systme.
Posted By: Coral Tech Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 03/09/05 07:22 AM
"Sprint may sound like a big name, but they are not even a top 10 brand. Stick with Toshiba, NEC, Avaya, or Nortel."

Why? Please justify this remark.
Posted By: freeness Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 03/22/05 10:38 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Coral Tech:
"Sprint may sound like a big name, but they are not even a top 10 brand. Stick with Toshiba, NEC, Avaya, or Nortel."

Why? Please justify this remark.
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Sprint is just rebranded Tadiran. Would you buy Tadiran? Just like NEC bought out Nitsuko and slapped their name on the old Nitsuko product line.

If you buy from a minor brand, or a renamed minor brand, so have limited service options. Check out how many Sprint dealers are in your area and then compare to Toshiba or NEC. More dealers mean better pricing, more options, and ensures support for a longer period.

Andy
https://www.teleco4.com
NEC bought Nitsuko and slapped their name tag on it....

and NOW they are #2 in sales North America....
Posted By: Coral Tech Re: Sprint K3, Toshiba CTX100, Vodavi STS - 03/22/05 03:44 PM
freeness, why would I buy the brands you offered that have a planned obsolescence of 5 years? BTW I AM an NEC dealer and a Sprint dealer (have been Tadiran for years) ESI as well. All my Tadiran switches have been in for years and simply upgraded. You should compare the quality of the phones as well...I have demo kits of most of my competetion so I can demo feature for feature against what we sell. There is a reason Tadiran costs more and I can tell you that simply listening to the handset or the speakerphone will tell you why. Better pricing? I just went head to head last with Avaya, Nortel, and Cisco and beat them ALL in features, quality and price. This was a 500 station deal too. BTW NEC didn't JUST slap their sticker on the Aspire..they have a major hand in it. The Aspire whacks the the other NEC product line upside the head...hard. So, I am still awaiting WHY you would purchse those other brands?
If you would fill out your profile or email me I can send you some comparison information. The CTX-100 is in a different classification than the others, thus the higher price tag. My choice, but then again you have to decide not one of us.
Thank you CORAL....
Freeness, I am unclear about your system comparisons...you seem to dislike NEC cause of the Nitsuko name yet on your website you sell NEC.

What system line do you sell the most?
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