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Jeff Moss
Moss Communications
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That mess looks the same as that guy writes.
-Hal
CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.
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Back in the '70s I worked for an Intercom/PA/BGM shop in NYC's Garment Center.
Back then (when we still made stuff here in the USA) the Showrooms were on Broadway and 7th Avenue and the Factories (sewing machines, cutters, etc) were west of there -8th, 9th, 10th Avenue - all the way to the (Hudson) River.
The company I worked for was called "Garment Center Telephone" Not very original, but what the heck. When they picked the name it was back in the 30's and the Telephones were connected to the Intercom-only PAX boards they sold.
At the time of this story (I know I'm being very long winded- sorry, it's a fault)we had recently started doing Interconnect and had been bidding an Interconnect job to an existing Intercom customer. I don't think our sales people were in too big a push to get this guy off the ICM system since they rented that equipment and sold the Interconnect (Sounds like the phone company, huh?).
Anyway we lost the job to a real sleazy outfit. All the customer decided to keep was the overhead PA. When I came to hook it up, nothing on the new system was working and the closets looked like the one on the web site. "Rats nests" would be too kind - and this job hadn't even cut over yet!
The customer came to me in tears "What am I going to do?" he said. "This is terrible, I should have gone with you guys."
"Well", I said. "This is pretty bad, you'll have to redo everything."
"I can't afford to redo it all" he said.
"How long have you been in the Garment Center" I asked.
"Fifty years" he replied.
"Then you'll know just what I'm talking about when I say - You should have a fire."
The boss took pity on him and for a somewhat reasonable sum we rewired the whole joint and cleaned up the equipment.
Sometimes all you can do with that sort of job is either rip it all out and start again,
Or have a fire.
Sam
"Where are we going and why are we in this hand basket?"
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Apparently, those aren't patch cables, those are the drops with modular plugs crimped on them, plugged directly into switches. He's got lots of vertical space on that rack, so he should space out the switches, add wire managers, and patch panels. Run short patch cables from open switch ports to patch panel ports, then pull one cable at a time, reroute, and punch to the patch panel. With it already being patched, the down time will only be a couple of minutes per connection. Keep patching away as switch ports come available. Shouldn't take more than a day to do.
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Originally posted by hbiss:
That mess looks the same as that guy writes.
-Hal That's because you have to press the "1" on the cell phone key pad seven times to create a period! notim e 4 that :rofl:
Ed Vaughn, MBSWWYPBX
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I agree with TTT.
Installa patch panel and cut them over one by one. If they can't be down during business hours, then either do it on a Saturday or tell them to make believe they have a power failure.
Dave
Scientists say that the universe is made up of Protons, Neutron & Electrons. They forgot "Morons".
Dave. (CTUB) Canadian Techs Use Bix!
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How about one large headache ball?
We get old too soon, smart too late
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One of the suggestions asked him about a "service window." I hope he doesn't take that literally and show up with a Sawzall.
Arthur P. Bloom
"30 years of faithful service...15 years on hold"
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RIP Moderator-Mitel, Panasonic
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RIP Moderator-Mitel, Panasonic
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Maybe the 'service window' was to jump out of if (when) the rehab 'went south'!  John C. (Not Garand)
When I was young, I was Liberal. As I aged and wised up, I became Conservative. Now that I'm old, I have settled on Curmudgeon.
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He's a CG... "what's a sawzall?"
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