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Hi.

I'm trying to find a good home system. I was considering Samsung as one option but I have a few question if you don't mind.

System #1 Samsung DCS.

1.Does this system have caller ID?
2.Does it work on Digital and Analog extensions? I'm trying to find if my caller ID box will work to keep track of missed calls?
3. What hardware is needed for caller ID?
-C1 trunk card?
-A1 expansion card?
-Special software

4. What software is needed? Is there a particular ROM number, etc...?

5. Does this system or phones have Call Logs to keep track of history/missed calls,etc?

6. Does this system use the Samsung DCS 24B phones?

System #2 idcs 100

1. Does this have Call Logs?
2. Does this have Caller ID to both digital and analog extensions?
3. What hardware is needed for caller ID?
4. What software is needed for call ID(release 2 only or is Release 1 ok?)
5. Does it use the Samsung DCS 24B phones?


Another question I have. If caller ID is not provided to analog extension, can a few analog extensions bypass the phone system and go directly from the telephone company's Dmark in order to get caller ID to analog extensions?

I realize there will be no Intercom to transfer feature with the phone system but my caller ID would work.

Please let me know.

Thanks.

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A DCS Compact would probably be a better size for a house unless you have 40 rooms. It starts at 4x8 and expands to 8x16 (plus 10 daughterboard extensions possible) and SMVI4e voicemail or 10 dialtones and 20 extensions (plus 10 daughterboard extensions possible.)

No Caller ID passes through to analog phones on the Compact and you need a Ram 2, CID software and a MISC 2 card to get Caller ID.

I believe the new R2 of the 100 will now pass CID to the analog stations (haven't tried it yet) and you need a MISC card for the Caller ID (all 100 software has CID built in.)

The 100 comes 0x8 and you put what you want in three slots and can expand to 3 more slots in an expansion cabinet.

If you want the newest Sam for a house, the 100 would be a better bet if you have the bucks for it.

All compact and 100 will do the older 12 and 24 button phones and 2.4 and after, I believe, will do the newer iDCS 8, 18 and 28 button phones as well as the older 12 and 24.

The 100 has a battery back up cable and you just need to add 4 12 volt, 7 amp batteries for battery back up which is a plus.

Either system uses 2x4 digital and 2x4 single line cards as well as a 2 SLi card.

Hope this helps. If you need more immediate info, email me at [email protected] otherwise post here.


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The DCS requires an Expansion A1 card for caller id but will not pass it to analog sets.
The 100 system supports caller id with a misc card but release 1 will not support it to analog extensions.All the systems have call logs.
I would not hook up the analog sets in front of the system.

Possibly the best choice for an in home system if the size is right is the iDCS 616 Release2 which comes 6 lines,12 digital and 4 analog extensions built in but it is non expandable.All the release 2 systems can pass caller id to the analog ports.The 616 does not support the DCS 7,12 or 24 button sets however just its own 24 button sets and the iDCS series phones.

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SEE post https://www.sundance-communications.com/forum/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/1/t/001197.html

and you have a 2 meg mail waiting

he also stated sip and the 16 wont do it so I think the 100 r 2 is the best choice

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I don't see where he mentioned that he needed sip.

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sorry P that was in the very first post he quoted "sip would be cool"

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Thank you everyone for the helpful suggestions.

I need 18 digital extensions maybe 2-4 analog extensions, door bell by the way.

Let me follow up with a few questions.

1. Which is the more reasonable priced system between the DCS vs idcs 100? I mean, which is a better bang for the buck?

For Caller ID:

1. DCS requires the A1 expansion card is an expensive piece of equipment which is needed for caller ID.

2. The iDCS 100 need a MICS card which is an inexpensive piece of equipment.

Software:

1. DCS requires a special Caller ID software? This software is an additional to the normal operating system or an updated version of its current operating software?

2. iDCS 100 has Caller ID included in all version of its software?

Function questions:

1. The idcs 100 comes with 8 digital extensions build into the system without any cards whatsoever. Do I understand that correctly?

2. Why is it a bad idea to put analog lines in front of the system? Does it destroy the quality or is it that analog phones can ease drop on a conversation on a digital phone?

Let me ask you, if you wanted to get your house wired up with a Samsung system. Which one could you choose if it was for your personal house? Speaking strictly as an end user not a salesman?

The DCS or iDCS 100?

Thanks for your help!

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The dcs is not sold new anymore and you need the a1 and software needs to be the last version.

the 100 is cid in all versions but you need the misc card for the recievers to decode

yes it is built 0x8 default and you need to purchase co cards, sli cards, smcp card for voip and the cid software. We can sell you the package for a good price but you really need to contact a local dealer.

with analog phones in front (before the system) yes you will be "dropping in" on the system.

"Let me ask you, if you wanted to get your house wired up with a Samsung system. Which one could you choose if it was for your personal house? Speaking strictly as an end user not a salesman? The DCS or iDCS 100?"

neither the idcs 16 does everything the 100 does except voip (no sip) and it caps out at 6 lines 12 digital and 4 analog ports so there is no need to buy cards. just phones and the system. and the price is much cheaper.

like I said the dcs is old/out of date and I would not want it in my home

if you want to grow then you will need the 100

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You need to purchase CID software on only the DCS right not the iDCS 100?

The iDCS 16 is not as old/out of date as the DCS?

It seem like the iDCS 16 can't use the 24 button Samsung phones and it seem like its too small since it has a max of only 12 digital extensions.

I guess, I would have to use a combination of both analog extensions and digital extensions to intercom all rooms and I would still be missing a few.

So the DCS is a bad system even for a basic house intercom situation?
It has call Logs, Caller ID, intercom calls with auto answer(2-way speaker)

So is the Caller ID software something in addition to the normal software?

Please let me know.

Thanks.

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DCS software is caller id ready,you need the expansion A1 card.

iDCS616 is a fairly new switch about 2 years old.
Great but no expansion capability.

DCS is a good system but discontinued.No caller id to analog ports like the Release2 616,100 and 500.
The newer systems also handle the in skin voicemails SVMi-2E for the 616 and SVMi-4E for the 100 ,are relatively cheap and offer some nice features.The Dcs would require the SVMi-8E which costs more .

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