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Phcctech: That was answered correctly in this post on 7/24/06 Originally posted by ev607797:
3. The 8A, B or X-series buzzer was typically mounted beneath the left-hand dial mounting screw in most sets, although the early buzzers had two mounting holes and 83X/283X sets actually had plastic bosses in the base to allow them to be screwed down.
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I remember reading somewhere that using positive ground reduced or eliminated electrolysis on cables and made them last longer.
Joe --- No trees were harmed as a result of this posting; however, many electrons were severely inconvenienced.
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Are we going to talk someday about key systems the same way? I bet we will and call them the good old days
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Diode Blocks?
We used to make our own
a 66M150 block and punching down SK-380 Diodes.
Just make sure Your using a Split Block !
I remember trouble shooting a ringing problem,only to find 50 Diodes all punched down on a 66M125 Block !
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel..
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Originally posted by junkman: I remember reading somewhere that using positive ground reduced or eliminated electrolysis on cables and made them last longer. Take a look at the positive terminal on your car battery, well..on someone's car that isn't well maintained. You'll see the positive lead and terminal has had most of the conductor eroded away. The metalic ions migrate from positive to negative. By using a negative voltage talk battery system, the positive ground points are sacrificed instead of the negative copper wire conductors.
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I cannot believe that no one has mentioned that "TIP and RING" came from, you guessed it, plugboard terminology! And of couse there was also the "sleeve". I assume (and you all know where that gets you) that the sleeve was used for all sorts of signaling functions, but I can't confirm that. Can anybody? John C.
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Oh, oh, wait, I know! Sleeve was for third wire ringing?
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Originally posted by clightninghorse: I cannot believe that no one has mentioned that "TIP and RING" came from, you guessed it, plugboard terminology! And of couse there was also the "sleeve". I assume (and you all know where that gets you) that the sleeve was used for all sorts of signaling functions, but I can't confirm that. Can anybody? John C. I can't confirm it 'cause, AFAIK, it's not true. I was SAMAman in GRDNCA01 SxS for it's last 10 years. A grounded sleeve was a line that is in use, or held. On a cord board that ground would light the light associated with the jack so operators in other positions would not plug into a busy line. In my Stepper sleeve ground caused switches to pass up busy lines, and held up a call's switch train. Again, as far as I know, up until the time that we went to automated message accounting the only signal that was applied to the sleeve was ground. When a Step-by-Step call entered my SAMA it would grab a sender, the sender would grab an indentifier, the identifier would put a tone on the sleeve of the line and look for that tone in the thousand number frame; thus identifying the caller's number for billing purposes. As far as I know, the only two functions of the sleeve were "line in use" and "what line?" Not what I could call all sorts of signaling. For what it is worth, the only trouble I was supposed to fix but couldn't was a customer whom my SAMA failed to identify -- between 1% and 5% of the time. Just her, no one else. Worked on that trouble for four years. 20 years later still bugs me that they killed my Stepper before I could track it down.
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The Sleeve was for internal use only -- never left the office. Tip and Ring is all that is ever went out to the customer and their KTS.
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